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lol-price for installing software and strapping a webui if you ask me. the original plug is $99.A wifi stick is $20 (their plug is $520).

by zobzu 15y ago

chime 15y ago
I see nothing wrong with that. The sale price should reflect what customers are willing to pay so as to maximize profit, not what the actual cost is.
- reilly3000 15y ago
  Indeed. And if you look at it from a cost basis think about what a fortune 50 company would have to do to get an IT department to design and deploy an appliance like this. A lot more than $500 I bet...
noonespecial 15y ago
I've made a fine living doing just that using Sheeva's and alix's before that and Soekris before that. Corporate IT is completely unprepared to do what it takes to wrangle these little embedded monsters. If it hasn't already got a web gui, they're more or less sunk. $520 is a bargain to (ahem) plug and play. They're not trying to fool anyone by saying that they've made a magical new product. Its straightforward software, as a service, in a can.
nwmcsween 15y ago
Well the 'elite' version is ~$750... that's getting pretty ridiculous when I could and have built something similar with openwrt a pelican case for ~$80 + the 45 or so minutes to tear the router apart and flash openwrt on to it.. As an added bonus it comes with a webui
- The_Sponge 15y ago
  Are you selling it?
- DrStalker 15y ago
  $520 is a trivial cost for business security, if it saves a few hours of figuring out how to create an equivalent it's worth the money. Then there is dealing with the mindset that a cheap approach to security is not going to be as good; it's not an area people like to cut corners.
- dfc 15y ago
  What are you using for 3G in your $80 box?
  - nwmcsween 15y ago
    I never had to use 3G, just an connect to an unbroadcast SSID of the router. If I was really determined to have 3G I would tether a pay-and-go phone to a usb port, but I don't see the usefulness of 3G when I have wifi..
    - dfc 15y ago
      You said similar for $80. Does your busted pelican box look as innocuous as this thing does in an average corporate environment? Have you done a lot of large scale corporate pen tests? I used to do a lot of pentest/wireless audits for IBM. Sure I could sit in the parking lot of Dr. Bobs Dermatology's practice and maintain a decent signal strength to his wireless network. But what are you going to do in downtown Manhattan when the client is on the 25th-35th floors of a building in the financial district? Does your pay as you go phone fit into your classy corporate looking pelican box? How does that pelican box look now that there is a second cord running out of it to charge the pay as you go phone? Now do you see the usefulness of built in 3G? PS: I just noticed that you have posted your description twice now. Is it $80 or $100?
      - forza 15y ago
        You would use a 15$ usb 3g modem, just like I assume the pwn plug does.

lol-price for installing software and strapping a webui if you ask me. the original plug is $99.A wifi stick is $20 (their plug is $520).

by zobzu 15y ago

lol-price for installing software and strapping a webui if you ask me. the original plug is $99.A wifi stick is $20 (their plug is $520).

chime 15y ago

I see nothing wrong with that. The sale price should reflect what customers are willing to pay so as to maximize profit, not what the actual cost is.

reilly3000 15y ago
Indeed. And if you look at it from a cost basis think about what a fortune 50 company would have to do to get an IT department to design and deploy an appliance like this. A lot more than $500 I bet...

noonespecial 15y ago

I've made a fine living doing just that using Sheeva's and alix's before that and Soekris before that. Corporate IT is completely unprepared to do what it takes to wrangle these little embedded monsters. If it hasn't already got a web gui, they're more or less sunk. $520 is a bargain to (ahem) plug and play. They're not trying to fool anyone by saying that they've made a magical new product. Its straightforward software, as a service, in a can.

nwmcsween 15y ago

Well the 'elite' version is ~$750... that's getting pretty ridiculous when I could and have built something similar with openwrt a pelican case for ~$80 + the 45 or so minutes to tear the router apart and flash openwrt on to it.. As an added bonus it comes with a webui

The_Sponge 15y ago
Are you selling it?
DrStalker 15y ago
$520 is a trivial cost for business security, if it saves a few hours of figuring out how to create an equivalent it's worth the money. Then there is dealing with the mindset that a cheap approach to security is not going to be as good; it's not an area people like to cut corners.
dfc 15y ago
What are you using for 3G in your $80 box?
- nwmcsween 15y ago
  I never had to use 3G, just an connect to an unbroadcast SSID of the router. If I was really determined to have 3G I would tether a pay-and-go phone to a usb port, but I don't see the usefulness of 3G when I have wifi..
  - dfc 15y ago
    You said similar for $80. Does your busted pelican box look as innocuous as this thing does in an average corporate environment? Have you done a lot of large scale corporate pen tests? I used to do a lot of pentest/wireless audits for IBM. Sure I could sit in the parking lot of Dr. Bobs Dermatology's practice and maintain a decent signal strength to his wireless network. But what are you going to do in downtown Manhattan when the client is on the 25th-35th floors of a building in the financial district? Does your pay as you go phone fit into your classy corporate looking pelican box? How does that pelican box look now that there is a second cord running out of it to charge the pay as you go phone? Now do you see the usefulness of built in 3G? PS: I just noticed that you have posted your description twice now. Is it $80 or $100?
    - forza 15y ago
      You would use a 15$ usb 3g modem, just like I assume the pwn plug does.