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That's fine, admirable even! But EVs have other problems: mining lithium and other metals for batteries is still terrible for the environment, and other battery

That's fine, admirable even! But EVs have other problems: mining lithium and other metals for batteries is still terrible for the environment, and other battery technologies are not yet promising enough to replace them. Not to mention that electric cars are still cars, so we still have tire and brake dust, etc. Less than before, of course, but they still exist.

iAMkenough 3y ago
I think those problems should be solved and battery technologies further developed, and broad adoption would increase the incentive to invest in tackling those issues. No matter how well developed public transit may or may not become across the nation, we're still going to need private transit.
hedora 3y ago
Public transit has problems too. It's often more difficult for people with disabilities and/or children. Also, we'll have to tear down the majority of the houses in the US, and build new ones in an arrangement that allows for bus lines to have sufficient passenger density to be less polluting than cars. EVs are better than ICE cars for the environment and public health in every way possible. Also, there's an incremental path forward that we can take right now. I wish there was better public transit in the US. Heck; I wish California would just mandate minimum density for new development near transit stations, and also auto-approve any compliant permit applications for housing in those areas (bypassing local zoning reviews, etc, etc.) Sadly, that won't happen while the current generation of politicians is around. Around here, they're mostly focusing on blocking construction, narrowing roads and cutting transit options. I think they're doing it to further prop up housing costs in wealthy neighborhoods.
- smcg 3y ago
  Public transit is far more able to support disabled people than private transit - public transit is coupled with dense space. Every train and bus I've been on in this century supports wheelchairs.
- smileysteve 3y ago
  The isolated, think of the children who have no adults to teach them how to ride public transit. Meanwhile, in Atlanta, private school children ride our trains every day, often with no adults, to Woodward academy. Public school children do too, but they're not wearing identifying jackets. Or Japan, or much of Europe (especially, Spain, Germany, Amsterdam, Austria) where students rides busses, trams, and trains every day. Most of these locations are also known better for physically disabled or elderly.

iAMkenough 3y ago

I think those problems should be solved and battery technologies further developed, and broad adoption would increase the incentive to invest in tackling those issues. No matter how well developed public transit may or may not become across the nation, we're still going to need private transit.

hedora 3y ago

Public transit has problems too. It's often more difficult for people with disabilities and/or children. Also, we'll have to tear down the majority of the houses in the US, and build new ones in an arrangement that allows for bus lines to have sufficient passenger density to be less polluting than cars. EVs are better than ICE cars for the environment and public health in every way possible. Also, there's an incremental path forward that we can take right now. I wish there was better public transit in the US. Heck; I wish California would just mandate minimum density for new development near transit stations, and also auto-approve any compliant permit applications for housing in those areas (bypassing local zoning reviews, etc, etc.) Sadly, that won't happen while the current generation of politicians is around. Around here, they're mostly focusing on blocking construction, narrowing roads and cutting transit options. I think they're doing it to further prop up housing costs in wealthy neighborhoods.

smcg 3y ago
Public transit is far more able to support disabled people than private transit - public transit is coupled with dense space. Every train and bus I've been on in this century supports wheelchairs.
smileysteve 3y ago
The isolated, think of the children who have no adults to teach them how to ride public transit. Meanwhile, in Atlanta, private school children ride our trains every day, often with no adults, to Woodward academy. Public school children do too, but they're not wearing identifying jackets. Or Japan, or much of Europe (especially, Spain, Germany, Amsterdam, Austria) where students rides busses, trams, and trains every day. Most of these locations are also known better for physically disabled or elderly.