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Yes, all the people who couldn't imagine the censorship being used against "their team," here it is. It always happens. Censorship is the tool of authoritarians

Yes, all the people who couldn't imagine the censorship being used against "their team," here it is. It always happens. Censorship is the tool of authoritarians. Fight it in every form.

2356234562537 3y ago
Well. My team doesn't hold rallys where people yell to gas the jews after a major terrorist attack. So... It's not that I can't imagine it being used against me it's just that I don't do that anyway so not being allowed to do it isn't a loss.
- kweingar 3y ago
  There is violent rhetoric at all rallies related to this war, pro-Israel rallies included. Most people do not say such terrible things, some people do say them, and the opposition paints the whole rally as endorsing that stance. That’s the way it goes.
- Clubber 3y ago
  Once a population is ok with censorship, they enable censorship, so eventually it will be a loss. That's what's happening right now.
- jabradoodle 3y ago
  That is not what they banned, I strongly suspect that is already illegal. Also, your "my team" take is bordering on, if not racist. There is no "other team", they are diverse individuals who have opinions that differ from yours.
  - jamie_ca 3y ago
    Pretty sure with "my team," parent was talking American politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
- Mandain62 3y ago
  > Well. My team doesn't hold rallys where people yell to gas the jews No your team hold rallies where people chants death to Arabs (even before the recent attacks) i.e. Just this last march, in Jerusalem under the protection of Israeli soldiers thousands of Israelis chanted "Death to Arabs" [1]. The term "Death to Arabs" is very famous in rallies and context of Israeli extremists, where some of the current Israeli government are members of their groups (i.e [2]). Will this change anything to you? I doubt but let's just say you are not being honest. [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/29/israel-jerusalem-march-death-arabs-00035862 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/29/israel-jerusalem-ma... [2] https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/extreme-right-mk-ben-gvir-claims-it-has-been-years-since-he-chanted-death-to-arabs/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/extreme-right-m...
giraffe_lady 3y ago
I really doubt any pro-palestine activists were surprised by this one? The tactic of contacting our employers expecting them to fire us is a couple decades old at least. We are routinely called anti-semites for condemning treatment of palestinians. And in the US currently the right is the one with the book-banning campaign? Again idk really how you can paint this as a surprising twist lol. We all saw it coming.
medvezhenok 3y ago
Mirroring my comments elsewhere: In an ideal world we would not have censorship, but people would be punished for death threats and violent action. However, most governments do not have the resources needed to enforce such punishment in the scale necessary (in these cases). When the need for that supercedes the capacity of the state to control it, the devil's bargain to censor speech instead.
- deleted 3y ago
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Yes, all the people who couldn't imagine the censorship being used against "their team," here it is. It always happens. Censorship is the tool of authoritarians. Fight it in every form.

2356234562537 3y ago

Well. My team doesn't hold rallys where people yell to gas the jews after a major terrorist attack. So... It's not that I can't imagine it being used against me it's just that I don't do that anyway so not being allowed to do it isn't a loss.

kweingar 3y ago
There is violent rhetoric at all rallies related to this war, pro-Israel rallies included. Most people do not say such terrible things, some people do say them, and the opposition paints the whole rally as endorsing that stance. That’s the way it goes.
Clubber 3y ago
Once a population is ok with censorship, they enable censorship, so eventually it will be a loss. That's what's happening right now.
jabradoodle 3y ago
That is not what they banned, I strongly suspect that is already illegal. Also, your "my team" take is bordering on, if not racist. There is no "other team", they are diverse individuals who have opinions that differ from yours.
- jamie_ca 3y ago
  Pretty sure with "my team," parent was talking American politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally
Mandain62 3y ago
> Well. My team doesn't hold rallys where people yell to gas the jews No your team hold rallies where people chants death to Arabs (even before the recent attacks) i.e. Just this last march, in Jerusalem under the protection of Israeli soldiers thousands of Israelis chanted "Death to Arabs" [1]. The term "Death to Arabs" is very famous in rallies and context of Israeli extremists, where some of the current Israeli government are members of their groups (i.e [2]). Will this change anything to you? I doubt but let's just say you are not being honest. [1] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/29/israel-jerusalem-march-death-arabs-00035862 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/29/israel-jerusalem-ma... [2] https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/extreme-right-mk-ben-gvir-claims-it-has-been-years-since-he-chanted-death-to-arabs/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/extreme-right-m...

giraffe_lady 3y ago

I really doubt any pro-palestine activists were surprised by this one? The tactic of contacting our employers expecting them to fire us is a couple decades old at least. We are routinely called anti-semites for condemning treatment of palestinians. And in the US currently the right is the one with the book-banning campaign? Again idk really how you can paint this as a surprising twist lol. We all saw it coming.

medvezhenok 3y ago

Mirroring my comments elsewhere: In an ideal world we would not have censorship, but people would be punished for death threats and violent action. However, most governments do not have the resources needed to enforce such punishment in the scale necessary (in these cases). When the need for that supercedes the capacity of the state to control it, the devil's bargain to censor speech instead.

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