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Show HN: I got tired of reading "This posting has been deleted by its author"
- thriftwy 3y agoWe are way overdue for having a service which would completely back up any bit if information you ever put your eye at, in a private cloud, with search.
- dyeje 3y agoNot a fan personally, but it’s out there. https://www.rewind.ai/ https://www.rewind.ai/
- chankstein38 3y agoWhy though? If a listing has been deleted, I know that it's no longer available, which I see as a feature. Is this just for meme or funny listings?
- june07 3y agoI've personally wanted to reference an ad after purchasing something or in other situations and it's gone. Again, think of physically clipping a newspaper ad. Pretty much just like http://wayback.archive.org/but http://wayback.archive.org/but on a more granular/niche scale.
- codetrotter 3y agoI can relate to that. I live in a different country but we have a similar site site here. Reasons I personally like to revisit old ads sometimes: - Seeing prices that people asked for an item at different times, and the full text of the ad and pictures so I can compare extras included and condition of item - Something I bought and I don’t remember how much I originally paid for it - Things that I did not buy, but I want to remember for the future and perhaps buy similar item from someone else in the future - As a substitute for buying the thing. Instead of buying an item now I can keep a copy of the ad and over time I can think about whether I really need that thing, or if it is not as necessary as I impulsively had imagined - etc
- june07 3y agoExactly these reasons as well! I've had them all too.
- chankstein38 3y agoMakes sense! Thank you for the explanation!
- rgovostes 3y agoA friend of mine was a victim of a false Craigslist listing inviting people to come by his home and take "free" items from his property. The listing was removed before he got home from work and realized what happened. It would have been useful to have an archived copy of the listing.
- june07 3y agoYep! Sorry to hear that but it certainly stands as a use case for this.
- chankstein38 3y agoOh dang I never even thought of that. That seems like a solid use case. Sorry to your friend!
- smcin 3y agoThe value of being able to see the deleted posts is so you can recognize the posters or their telltale phrases in future: a) Too-good-to-be-true accommodation listings on CL/FB listing artificially low weekly/month-to-month rates on nice-looking properties, in order to "acquire" unwitting customers for marketing RE or 12+ month leases to. RedFin and/or their affiliates seemed to be doing a huge amount of this throughout 2022. b) Deposit scammers on CL, FB advertising properties for which they are not the landlord; meet in person to pretend to take application and deposit. (Someone I know was scammed $1400. Obviously be skeptical, check owner, never give cash to strangers - but this still happens). c) Another telltale is when the identity of the "apply to" URL is disguised using shorteners (or rendered as image). d) Nuisance landlord(/roommate) scammers on CL/FB who repeatedly post a similar generic ad under different names/ addresses/ userids; then don't know which property in which country you're responding to, won't reply by phone, are in a different timezone/country, and insist you fill in their third-party application form incl. your contacts and SSN.
- willsmith72 3y agoI really hate these scammers. I've moved quite a few times and when it gets to be a week out and I still have so much stuff and no time, I've often tried to give it away, but people are so suspicious that they could get a free couch or desk that we have to go through 10 messages for them to trust me. I can't be bothered to exchange that many messages with 20 people just to give something away. I want an apartment equivalent of a garage sale for good stuff, not junk
- macNchz 3y agoA decade ago I rented an apartment that was advertised on Craigslist as having laundry machines, that we only learned would cost extra after signing the lease. The broker who rented it to us swore the ad didn’t specify it was included. Thankfully I’d taken a screenshot, and caught the broker in a lie directly in front of her boss. They paid us cash right there to make up for it!
- CharlesW 3y agoI don't get it. When I click on the topmost archived ad (https://clippings-archive.june07.com/craigslist/7675980380 https://clippings-archive.june07.com/craigslist/7675980380) I get a 404. Others work, but what is the value of a deleted ad?
- rolph 3y agoif your really shadey you pick an posting/ad thats getting moby-like traction, archive it and as soon as the real deal is deleted, you spoof the post, and redirect, to ride its momentum, to influence your site visits.
- june07 3y agoNo 404 anymore by the way, again, it was an issue with the Github deployment pipeline.
- june07 3y agoLooks like GitHub workflow to rebuild pages errored for some reason and that's why the 404 showed up. However, you'll notice that if you click on the direct link to the git content, everything is there. https://github.com/june07/clippings-archive/tree/main/craigslist/7675980380 https://github.com/june07/clippings-archive/tree/main/craigs...
- CharlesW 3y agoI just enjoyed the irony :^) and wish you well in fixing it. I'm still mystified about the purpose, though. Can you explain a use case or three?
- june07 3y agoGot scammed on CL buying something and want to reference the original ad for any "forensic" data. Of course the scammer will delete the post as soon as the item(s) are "sold". No problem, I'll just reference clippings because it's archived. There's one.
- warkdarrior 3y agoAlso great for revenge porn, right-to-be-forgotten items, and deep fakes.
- minimaul 3y agoThe swipe ads for digitalocean on this are tremendously obnoxious as they break back and forward swiping on Safari on iPhone. That’s not okay, don’t do this. But hey, it’s a way to guarantee that you’ll annoy people enough to not use it.
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- june07 3y agoNoted. Will address asap! Thanks.
- june07 3y agoRemoved the ads until I can fix the problem you are experiencing. Click on App update available or reload the page again, if you'd be so kind.
- toomanyrichers 3y agoStill breaks swipe to go back for me.
- june07 3y agoOpened an issue for this https://github.com/june07/clippings-frontend/issues/1 https://github.com/june07/clippings-frontend/issues/1 if you want to add some additional detail about what you are experiencing on your end...
- KomoD 3y agoPasted a listing, did nothing, just forever stuck on "saving"
- g232089 3y agoYou can use https://archive.ph https://archive.ph to archive webpages instantly and (seemingly) forever. Btw, I've been aching for a browser extension that saves a copy of every web site I visit so I can reach for the archived copy in my history window. Does anything like that exist?
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- june07 3y agoActually, discovered that site after building this! lol It did seem to be a good resource. However, there are certainly differences between Clippings and it. One big one being that Clippings is more narrowly focused on classifieds and not the web in general. Not sure about the browser extension...
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoFrom a data persistence perspective, it’s good just that there are more archives so I wouldn’t worry too much about differentiation. Hopefully this tool is used alongside others.
- hexfish 3y agoIt's a bit more convoluted than just installing a browser extension but you could set something up with -for example- Archivebox: https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/wiki/Scheduled-Archiving#example-export-and-archive-firefox-browser-history-every-24-hours https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/wiki/Scheduled-Arch...
- thih9 3y agoWhat about the right to be forgotten and similar laws? Is it legal to run a service like this when laws exist about providing the original author or a person present in a photo with a way to remove content or personally identifiable information? There are also copyright trolls and GDPR trolls, isn’t a service like this an opportunity for them?
- generalizations 3y agoWhat about my right to remember?
- june07 3y agoLove this.
- AlbertCory 3y agoYou have no such "right." You can always screenshot it.
- thih9 3y agoIt doesn’t prevent you from remembering. > The right to be forgotten leads to allowing individuals to have information, videos, or photographs about themselves deleted from certain Internet records so that they cannot be found by search engines. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
- june07 3y agoUnfortunately, when you post ANYTHING online... one must assume it's like a tattoo... that is to say permanent. Not saying it's right or wrong (because believe me I have my own privacy/trust issues), just saying it is reality.
- krapp 3y ago>Unfortunately, when you post ANYTHING online... one must assume it's like a tattoo... that is to say permanent. Not saying it's right or wrong (because believe me I have my own privacy/trust issues), just saying it is reality. It isn't reality. Reality is that it's simply data on a server. Data on a server isn't permanent, the web was never designed or intended to provide an immutable record of anything. Data is only saved when it has value, and only as long as that value exceeds the cost of maintaining continuous copies, and sometimes (as recently nearly happened with Google code) people simply become careless and the one and only copy of something vanishes without a trace. Many, many things have vanished from the internet without a trace.
- xwdv 3y agoReddit is especially bad about this. I’m tired of seeing deleted posts leaving tattered conversations where you can hardly tell what someone is talking about. Content you post online should be as immutable as possible.
- AlbertCory 3y agoWrong. If the post is accumulating negative points, author should be able to delete it.
- whelp_24 3y agowhy?
- bee_rider 3y agoIt destroys the conversation. It would be nice to be able to disown a comment, instead. Comments that accidentally reveal personal information, that would be a nice use-case for deletion. But on the other hand, nothing can be deleted from the internet, so having the button there could add a false sense of security.
- AlbertCory 3y ago> nothing can be deleted from the internet In theory that's true; anything Donald Trump says, for instance, can never be deleted. In practice, if someone on Reddit deletes their post, it's extremely unlikely you'll be able to recover it. It's not a probability of zero, but pretty close to it. You could file a lawsuit and then Reddit will have to find it, but otherwise, it's gone.
- Lacerda69 3y ago>You could file a lawsuit and then Reddit will have to find it I doubt that unless it's criminal evidence or something
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- throwaway14356 3y agois anyone archiving advertisements for historical purposes? I tried looking for banners one time, squares skyscrapers etc. (Just to populate a rotation script.) but couldn't find anything.
- rekabis 3y agoWhat’s wrong with a screenshot? Greenshot is my choice of Windows app for capturing just limited clips of the screen and either saving them directly to the drive or dumping into the clipboard for elsewhere paste.
- lazyasciiart 3y agoSearch?
- tivert 3y agoI just found out the other day that the official Internet Archive/Wayback Machine extension (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wayback-machine/fpnmgdkabkmnadcjpehmlllkndpkmiak https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wayback-machine/fp...) has a mode to automatically archive every page you view. It's pretty neat, and I wish more people would run it to get a more diverse snapshot of stuff into the Wayback machine.
- ajdude 3y agoI wish I knew about this sooner! They also have it for firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/wayback-machine_new/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/wayback-machi...
- willsmith72 3y agoI see they have a private mode, how does this work exactly? How does it make sure it's archiving the home page of my bank's website and not my personal dashboard?
- Kye 3y agoIt probably nudges the crawler to come rather than sending the page. If it's private, the crawler won't be able to see it.
- tivert 3y ago> It probably nudges the crawler to come rather than sending the page. If it's private, the crawler won't be able to see it. I'm sure that's exactly what it does. It is definitely not archiving some Facebook pages I've been browsing (that I would actually like to archive). It's only been capturing the login screen or an error about abusing the site.
- guraf 3y agoIt doesn't share your cookies, that probably stops almost any leak. Then probably rules to filter out legacy ?sessid= ?sID=. Other than that I imagine it leaks things like /bank/account/id/75795 but the crawler will drop it when it returns a 40X.
- BarfBarfomellow 3y agoDoesn't work for me
- june07 3y agoCan provide more information... ad, error, etc?
- BarfBarfomellow 3y agoI have a feeling this website is gonna be full of gay prostitute ads and dildos
- june07 3y agolol... you might be right... https://clippings-archive.june07.com/craigslist/7674411747?_gl=1*7795if*_ga*MTA0MzEyMDc0NC4xNjk3MDgxNzU2*_ga_01Z47XM0XY*MTY5NzEzMDc5OC40LjEuMTY5NzE1MjYyMC4wLjAuMA https://clippings-archive.june07.com/craigslist/7674411747?_.....
- globular-toast 3y agoRemember when browsers had a "Save Page" feature? (They still do, it's just hidden because it's thoroughly uncool, for some reason.)
- june07 3y agohttps://blog.june07.com/introduction-clippings/ https://blog.june07.com/introduction-clippings/ Bunch of changes since the initial post 12 days ago and a new feature addition: https://blog.june07.com/clippings-emergency-alerts https://blog.june07.com/clippings-emergency-alerts