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I’m subscribed to them for the same reason I was subscribed to DirecTV for a decade - they have a monopoly on Sunday Ticket. Oh, how I yearn for Sunday Ticket

I’m subscribed to them for the same reason I was subscribed to DirecTV for a decade - they have a monopoly on Sunday Ticket. Oh, how I yearn for Sunday Ticket to just be its own entity so I didn’t have to buy another service.

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
I know not exactly what you're looking for but I bought RedZone for the first time through the NFL+ app this year and it's so nice to just have that and not fuss with any other service.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Sunday Ticket is different than RedZone. RedZone is a single channel that jumps between games; Sunday Ticket gives you unfettered access to all games.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    Even Sunday Ticket does not give you access to all the games. https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/ https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/ >NFL Sunday Ticket: Every out-of-market Sunday game[1] >[1] Locally broadcast Fox and CBS games, Sunday Night Football on NBC, select digital-only games and international games excluded
    - bdcravens 3y ago
      Sure, but it does give you the lion's share, whereas Red Zone is really just one show, six hours on Sundays (and occasionally Saturday)
  - halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
    Right, which is why I said “not exactly what you’re looking for”. Was just highlighting that RedZone is purchasable *independently* through an app with little to no fuss.
jpollock 3y ago
You can subscribe to Sunday Ticket without signing up for YouTube TV. See "NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube" or "NFL Sunday Ticket + NFL RedZone on YouTube"
- andrewgioia 3y ago
  While technically true this is hardly an option... Both of those "alternative" plans exclude YouTube TV while charging considerably more. How many users who enjoy paying more for less did they sell to here? $350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems. Their pricing page: https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/#id-plan-matrix https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/#id-plan-matrix Image if you can't access it: https://i.imgur.com/0nsQZxA.png https://i.imgur.com/0nsQZxA.png
  - dpifke 3y ago
    $350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems. YouTube TV is required—not included—with the $350/year plan. So it's either $350/year + $73/month (with), or $450/year (without). Assuming you only keep YouTube TV for the September-January football season, that's $715/season with YouTube TV, vs. $450/season without. If you don't get any value from YouTube TV (e.g. if you already have cable or satellite), it's cheaper without. (Sunday Ticket doesn't show locally or nationally broadcast games such as Monday Night Football, so you kinda need access to broadcast TV alongside it.) When DirecTV had the Sunday Ticket monopoly, you had to sign a two-year contract to be allowed to purchase it. At least with Google, you can cancel YouTube TV as soon as the season is over. In my family's case, we weighed the cost against what we spent last football season on food + drinks at sports bars, and decided it was a better deal. ($715 over 18 weeks = $40/weekend. If we go out half as frequently, we come out ahead.)
    - poulsbohemian 3y ago
      I agree with your math, but the whole thing is offensive and abusive no matter how you cut it. $450/year (minimum) just to get football games. We've been evaluating our different options overall, given that Netflix price-to-value continues to weaken, as does Sling and Hulu, but I can't find any reason apart from NFL games why I would subscribe to YouTubeTv.
spike021 3y ago
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if mlb tv could release a subscription without blackouts I would no longer need YouTube tv. Same kind of problem.
- halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
  I have a separate Wi-Fi network in my house that routes through a VPN in a city I’m not located in that I point my AppleTV too whenever I want to watch local MLB games. Works like a charm. Just remember to turn off location services for the MLB app in AppleTV.

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago

I know not exactly what you're looking for but I bought RedZone for the first time through the NFL+ app this year and it's so nice to just have that and not fuss with any other service.

bdcravens 3y ago
Sunday Ticket is different than RedZone. RedZone is a single channel that jumps between games; Sunday Ticket gives you unfettered access to all games.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  Even Sunday Ticket does not give you access to all the games. https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/ https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/ >NFL Sunday Ticket: Every out-of-market Sunday game[1] >[1] Locally broadcast Fox and CBS games, Sunday Night Football on NBC, select digital-only games and international games excluded
  - bdcravens 3y ago
    Sure, but it does give you the lion's share, whereas Red Zone is really just one show, six hours on Sundays (and occasionally Saturday)
- halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
  Right, which is why I said “not exactly what you’re looking for”. Was just highlighting that RedZone is purchasable *independently* through an app with little to no fuss.

jpollock 3y ago

You can subscribe to Sunday Ticket without signing up for YouTube TV. See "NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube" or "NFL Sunday Ticket + NFL RedZone on YouTube"

andrewgioia 3y ago
While technically true this is hardly an option... Both of those "alternative" plans exclude YouTube TV while charging considerably more. How many users who enjoy paying more for less did they sell to here? $350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems. Their pricing page: https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/#id-plan-matrix https://tv.youtube.com/learn/nflsundayticket/#id-plan-matrix Image if you can't access it: https://i.imgur.com/0nsQZxA.png https://i.imgur.com/0nsQZxA.png
- dpifke 3y ago
  $350/year for Sunday Ticket with YouTube TV included vs. $450/year for just Sunday Ticket, delivered via regular YouTube it seems. YouTube TV is required—not included—with the $350/year plan. So it's either $350/year + $73/month (with), or $450/year (without). Assuming you only keep YouTube TV for the September-January football season, that's $715/season with YouTube TV, vs. $450/season without. If you don't get any value from YouTube TV (e.g. if you already have cable or satellite), it's cheaper without. (Sunday Ticket doesn't show locally or nationally broadcast games such as Monday Night Football, so you kinda need access to broadcast TV alongside it.) When DirecTV had the Sunday Ticket monopoly, you had to sign a two-year contract to be allowed to purchase it. At least with Google, you can cancel YouTube TV as soon as the season is over. In my family's case, we weighed the cost against what we spent last football season on food + drinks at sports bars, and decided it was a better deal. ($715 over 18 weeks = $40/weekend. If we go out half as frequently, we come out ahead.)
  - poulsbohemian 3y ago
    I agree with your math, but the whole thing is offensive and abusive no matter how you cut it. $450/year (minimum) just to get football games. We've been evaluating our different options overall, given that Netflix price-to-value continues to weaken, as does Sling and Hulu, but I can't find any reason apart from NFL games why I would subscribe to YouTubeTv.

spike021 3y ago

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if mlb tv could release a subscription without blackouts I would no longer need YouTube tv. Same kind of problem.

halfmatthalfcat 3y ago
I have a separate Wi-Fi network in my house that routes through a VPN in a city I’m not located in that I point my AppleTV too whenever I want to watch local MLB games. Works like a charm. Just remember to turn off location services for the MLB app in AppleTV.