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You do you know that one of Obama's campaign promises was to pass a law explicitly allowing abortions? At which point it wouldn't matter what Roe vs Wade decide

You do you know that one of Obama's campaign promises was to pass a law explicitly allowing abortions? At which point it wouldn't matter what Roe vs Wade decided because there's an actual law on the books now. This would be like Clark Kent was telling some kid not to play on the guard rails on a bridge and then the kid fell off. Except that now Superman was too slow to react and didn't save the kid. Don't be blaming Superman (Supreme Court); the problem should've be nipped in the bud earlier (Congress).

ben_w 3y ago
The same political pressures that go into appointing people to the Supreme Court, also apply to congress, the senate, and to the presidency. I don't think that comes out like your Superman scenario. Possibly Kafka, but like most people making such a comparison, I've not actually read The Trial.
- lesuorac 3y ago
  > The same political pressures that go into appointing people to the Supreme Court, also apply to congress, the senate, and to the presidency. Sure but he got elected with that promise and then immediately reneged and explicitly said he wasn't going to try. To say the other only thing allowing abortions was the Supreme Court is _only_ correct because the Legislature and Executive branches intentionally didn't add any other blockers. To solely be upset with the Supreme Court is silly, this exact scenario was intentionally created by the other two branches.
shiroiuma 3y ago
There was no way Obama could have gotten abortion legalized in Congress; he didn't have the power, and there just wasn't enough consensus on the issue to get such a law passed. Abortion has long been a huge wedge issue in America; there's simply not enough political will to legalize it at the federal level, and it doesn't look like there will be in our lifetimes. Too many voters adamantly oppose it for this to happen. Even if you somehow got a slim Democratic majority to pass such a law, as soon as the GOP has a slim majority, they'll repeal the law, or shut down the government to try to force it.

ben_w 3y ago

The same political pressures that go into appointing people to the Supreme Court, also apply to congress, the senate, and to the presidency. I don't think that comes out like your Superman scenario. Possibly Kafka, but like most people making such a comparison, I've not actually read The Trial.

lesuorac 3y ago
> The same political pressures that go into appointing people to the Supreme Court, also apply to congress, the senate, and to the presidency. Sure but he got elected with that promise and then immediately reneged and explicitly said he wasn't going to try. To say the other only thing allowing abortions was the Supreme Court is _only_ correct because the Legislature and Executive branches intentionally didn't add any other blockers. To solely be upset with the Supreme Court is silly, this exact scenario was intentionally created by the other two branches.

shiroiuma 3y ago

There was no way Obama could have gotten abortion legalized in Congress; he didn't have the power, and there just wasn't enough consensus on the issue to get such a law passed. Abortion has long been a huge wedge issue in America; there's simply not enough political will to legalize it at the federal level, and it doesn't look like there will be in our lifetimes. Too many voters adamantly oppose it for this to happen. Even if you somehow got a slim Democratic majority to pass such a law, as soon as the GOP has a slim majority, they'll repeal the law, or shut down the government to try to force it.