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What have you done to fix it besides not stealing fonts and writing a blog? You're using slacktivism as cover for bad behavior. I'm not saying that IP laws are

by 23B1 3y ago

What have you done to fix it besides not stealing fonts and writing a blog? You're using slacktivism as cover for bad behavior. I'm not saying that IP laws aren't f'd up and wrong. They absolutely are. But two wrongs don't make a right, and it's the same nonsense that folks have been making since the beginning of the internet to justify what amounts to petty theft.

manuelmoreale 3y ago
What have I done? I paid for fonts when people have sane licenses to support good behavior. I also support and use open source typefaces. What else am I supposed to do? Pay a goddamn typeface more money than I make working full time in a month?
- 23B1 3y ago
  Apologies, I totally misread this bit of your comment: > Until foundries start adopting sensible licenses for webfonts I’ll just refuse to give money to them. Yeah of course you shouldn't feel obligated to pay for what you don't want. I assumed it meant you'd just 'steal' it if you didn't like the license.
  - manuelmoreale 3y ago
    I'd never steal a font considering there are countless free, open source alternatives out there. But I also refuse to pay an insane amount of money to type foundries because they decided that "page views" are a reasonable indicator of how much value I'm getting for a typeface. I worked on websites where the cost of a license for the font was 70% of the total budget available for the entire project. That makes no sense to me. I love great typography. I love great typefaces. But a typeface is not all that important in the grand scheme of things. I can change a typeface on literally every single one of the hundreds of websites I worked on in my career and I bet 95% of the users would not notice it nor care cabout it. We are all colletively getting pissed super quickly when software goes subscription but we're fine when someone is selling me a typeface that comes with 50000 page views and once those are "used" I have to pay again. For a goddamn file I self host myself. It's just bonkers.

by 23B1 3y ago

manuelmoreale 3y ago

What have I done? I paid for fonts when people have sane licenses to support good behavior. I also support and use open source typefaces. What else am I supposed to do? Pay a goddamn typeface more money than I make working full time in a month?

23B1 3y ago
Apologies, I totally misread this bit of your comment: > Until foundries start adopting sensible licenses for webfonts I’ll just refuse to give money to them. Yeah of course you shouldn't feel obligated to pay for what you don't want. I assumed it meant you'd just 'steal' it if you didn't like the license.
- manuelmoreale 3y ago
  I'd never steal a font considering there are countless free, open source alternatives out there. But I also refuse to pay an insane amount of money to type foundries because they decided that "page views" are a reasonable indicator of how much value I'm getting for a typeface. I worked on websites where the cost of a license for the font was 70% of the total budget available for the entire project. That makes no sense to me. I love great typography. I love great typefaces. But a typeface is not all that important in the grand scheme of things. I can change a typeface on literally every single one of the hundreds of websites I worked on in my career and I bet 95% of the users would not notice it nor care cabout it. We are all colletively getting pissed super quickly when software goes subscription but we're fine when someone is selling me a typeface that comes with 50000 page views and once those are "used" I have to pay again. For a goddamn file I self host myself. It's just bonkers.