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The ol' thumbtacks on the street near the tire-shop routine... but actually doing it. BART should've just stopped replacing them because it was already depress

The ol' thumbtacks on the street near the tire-shop routine... but actually doing it. BART should've just stopped replacing them because it was already depressing and created a feeling of unease even when it was just a few years old. BART is a symptom of the dysfunctional, lower-classing of American mass-transit in contrast to masses of unyielding cultural exaltation of the single occupant vehicle in gridlock. Hurray that they dug a tunnel under the Bay, but scant few actually want to board a tram that seems perpetually foreshadowing of an escape room or serial killer scene.

fragmede 3y ago
Average weekday ridership of around 172,000 hardly seems like scant few, but I'll say that the new trains are nice.
- local_crmdgeon 3y ago
  It would be higher if they gave a shit about cleaning up the system. SF's coddling of dangerous people shitting and smoking meth everywhere is insane. Also, 172k is a 75% of Brampton's bus system - from suburban Toronto: https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/07/brampton-beats-out-major-us-cities-riding-bus/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/07/brampton-beats-out-major... Enforce anti-social/QoL laws, allow construction, and prosecute crime and I bet BART would see double it's 2019 ridership.
  - amanaplanacanal 3y ago
    I’m not sure what enforcement would even look like. There aren’t enough jail cells and mental health treatment. And nobody wants to pay what it would cost.
    - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
      That's a pathetic fact for California, the richest part of the richest country in the world.
    - codersfocus 3y ago
      A much simpler option is to decriminalize simple assault and let private “peer to peer” corporal punishment resolve the issue
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > Also, 172k is a 75% of Brampton's bus system - from suburban Toronto: Muni, SF'S bus (well, and intracity rail) system (with roughly the same population as Brampton) is 440k+ weekday average ridership. Not sure why you are comparing completely unrelated things here.

fragmede 3y ago

Average weekday ridership of around 172,000 hardly seems like scant few, but I'll say that the new trains are nice.

local_crmdgeon 3y ago
It would be higher if they gave a shit about cleaning up the system. SF's coddling of dangerous people shitting and smoking meth everywhere is insane. Also, 172k is a 75% of Brampton's bus system - from suburban Toronto: https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/07/brampton-beats-out-major-us-cities-riding-bus/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/07/brampton-beats-out-major... Enforce anti-social/QoL laws, allow construction, and prosecute crime and I bet BART would see double it's 2019 ridership.
- amanaplanacanal 3y ago
  I’m not sure what enforcement would even look like. There aren’t enough jail cells and mental health treatment. And nobody wants to pay what it would cost.
  - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
    That's a pathetic fact for California, the richest part of the richest country in the world.
  - codersfocus 3y ago
    A much simpler option is to decriminalize simple assault and let private “peer to peer” corporal punishment resolve the issue
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Also, 172k is a 75% of Brampton's bus system - from suburban Toronto: Muni, SF'S bus (well, and intracity rail) system (with roughly the same population as Brampton) is 440k+ weekday average ridership. Not sure why you are comparing completely unrelated things here.