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> But back in America I saw people carrying guns around in public all the time You know guns are legal in the US, right?

shiroiuma 3y ago
Yes, and that's why tens of thousands of Americans are killed by them every year, including in daily mass shootings. We don't have that problem in Japan, or any civilized country for that matter. I can walk around in public any time and not worry about someone going on a shooting rampage here.
- lesuorac 3y ago
  I mean you can do that in USA too, take a look at a map of them and how much blank space there is between them [1]. Keep in mind that gang violence counts as mass shootings so if you're not in a gang or in gang area the risk goes off a cliff. When excluding mass killings that happen as part of Robbery / Gang Violence it drops down to 10 incidents in 2023 [3] which is pretty good compared to Europe's 8 [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Geographical_distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_S... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2023_mass_shootings_in_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2023_mass_shootings_i... [3]: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-...
- kortilla 3y ago
  People walking around with guns in public are not the people mass shooting. You’re confused about correlation vs causation here.
simonh 3y ago
So in theory are pixelated porn and whale meat in Japan. It was a comparison between things that are legal and their actual prevalence.
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  To be fair, I think the bit about pixelated porn was actually a complaint about censorship, not that porn is everywhere. Non-pixelated porn is illegal and sometimes prosecuted apparently, but it's really not that hard to find on sites outside of Japan. However, there is a LOT of porn in Japan; the JAV industry is huge. However, here too we're talking about public spaces, and while you can certainly find porn if you want to and know where to look, it's not forced on you anywhere and you could easily not see any. (In offline spaces, it's confined to seedy little "DVD" shops that aren't in main shopping areas. I imagine online stuff is slowly putting these old-fashioned places out of business.)

shiroiuma 3y ago

Yes, and that's why tens of thousands of Americans are killed by them every year, including in daily mass shootings. We don't have that problem in Japan, or any civilized country for that matter. I can walk around in public any time and not worry about someone going on a shooting rampage here.

lesuorac 3y ago
I mean you can do that in USA too, take a look at a map of them and how much blank space there is between them [1]. Keep in mind that gang violence counts as mass shootings so if you're not in a gang or in gang area the risk goes off a cliff. When excluding mass killings that happen as part of Robbery / Gang Violence it drops down to 10 incidents in 2023 [3] which is pretty good compared to Europe's 8 [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Geographical_distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_S... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2023_mass_shootings_in_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2023_mass_shootings_i... [3]: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-...
kortilla 3y ago
People walking around with guns in public are not the people mass shooting. You’re confused about correlation vs causation here.

simonh 3y ago

So in theory are pixelated porn and whale meat in Japan. It was a comparison between things that are legal and their actual prevalence.

shiroiuma 3y ago
To be fair, I think the bit about pixelated porn was actually a complaint about censorship, not that porn is everywhere. Non-pixelated porn is illegal and sometimes prosecuted apparently, but it's really not that hard to find on sites outside of Japan. However, there is a LOT of porn in Japan; the JAV industry is huge. However, here too we're talking about public spaces, and while you can certainly find porn if you want to and know where to look, it's not forced on you anywhere and you could easily not see any. (In offline spaces, it's confined to seedy little "DVD" shops that aren't in main shopping areas. I imagine online stuff is slowly putting these old-fashioned places out of business.)