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And I can't believe that NEWLY-DEPLOYED trains in L.A. have CLOTH seats. I saw these on day one and said, WTF, whose idea was this? And sure enough, today thes

And I can't believe that NEWLY-DEPLOYED trains in L.A. have CLOTH seats. I saw these on day one and said, WTF, whose idea was this? And sure enough, today these trains are rolling diapers. No way would I ever sit on one of these things. The level of stupidity here is just unbelievable.

seszett 3y ago
But I don't understand, Paris doesn't have a reputation for cleanliness and the cloth seats of the metro aren't especially disgusting. Trains around the world also have fabric seats obviously, because nobody wants to spend hours sitting on hard plastic. There are always people doing disgusting things wherever they are but they are such a minority that it doesn't really affect the everyday experience of others in general. Maybe you only had a few bad experiences?
- kortilla 3y ago
  LA is also filled with homeless people who have drug problems.
  - mnd999 3y ago
    So fix _that_ problem
    - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
      We're trying! We're giving them money, tents, and we no longer prosecute drug crime. Soon, 100% of LA will be homeless and the problem will be fixed.
- brightlancer 3y ago
  If someone puked on a train in Paris, what would happen? If someone got on the train and started smoking drugs off tinfoil, what would happen? In many cities in the US, the answer is _nothing_. I've ridden commuter buses in the US that had cloth seats and commuter trains that had soft plastic-like seats, and they were quite nice -- but they also cost twice or more as much as a regular bus/ train ride. That price cuts down on certain behaviors.
  - seszett 3y ago
    > If someone puked on a train in Paris, what would happen? Probably nothing much to be honest. The train would get cleaned at the end of the line I guess. As to drugs, I don't think anything would happen either (apart from the other passengers leaving the car at the next stop) but people don't do that. I think the problem is elsewhere, these behaviours just aren't supposed to exist in modern society. I don't know what is with the US society that enables them though.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
  I'm not mocking you when I say, you're right: You don't understand. No public conveyance in the USA should have anything other than fiberglass bucket seats with a hole in the middle for drainage. For one thing, hard seats are not uncomfortable. A well-shaped wooden seat on a rocking chair, for example, is comfortable for hours. And most public-transport trips aren't long enough to really tax one's ass anyway. For another: Public trains in the USA are a haven for homeless and bums. When you've driven past a coffee shop that has picnic tables on the sidewalk and seen a homeless guy with his pants literally filled with shit sitting at one... you understand the problem. I don't care what country you're in; cloth seats on mass transit are dumb. They just can't be adequately cleaned. In Paris, a city allegedly suffering from a bedbug outbreak, I'd expect most people to question their use.

seszett 3y ago

But I don't understand, Paris doesn't have a reputation for cleanliness and the cloth seats of the metro aren't especially disgusting. Trains around the world also have fabric seats obviously, because nobody wants to spend hours sitting on hard plastic. There are always people doing disgusting things wherever they are but they are such a minority that it doesn't really affect the everyday experience of others in general. Maybe you only had a few bad experiences?

kortilla 3y ago
LA is also filled with homeless people who have drug problems.
- mnd999 3y ago
  So fix _that_ problem
  - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
    We're trying! We're giving them money, tents, and we no longer prosecute drug crime. Soon, 100% of LA will be homeless and the problem will be fixed.
brightlancer 3y ago
If someone puked on a train in Paris, what would happen? If someone got on the train and started smoking drugs off tinfoil, what would happen? In many cities in the US, the answer is _nothing_. I've ridden commuter buses in the US that had cloth seats and commuter trains that had soft plastic-like seats, and they were quite nice -- but they also cost twice or more as much as a regular bus/ train ride. That price cuts down on certain behaviors.
- seszett 3y ago
  > If someone puked on a train in Paris, what would happen? Probably nothing much to be honest. The train would get cleaned at the end of the line I guess. As to drugs, I don't think anything would happen either (apart from the other passengers leaving the car at the next stop) but people don't do that. I think the problem is elsewhere, these behaviours just aren't supposed to exist in modern society. I don't know what is with the US society that enables them though.
ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
I'm not mocking you when I say, you're right: You don't understand. No public conveyance in the USA should have anything other than fiberglass bucket seats with a hole in the middle for drainage. For one thing, hard seats are not uncomfortable. A well-shaped wooden seat on a rocking chair, for example, is comfortable for hours. And most public-transport trips aren't long enough to really tax one's ass anyway. For another: Public trains in the USA are a haven for homeless and bums. When you've driven past a coffee shop that has picnic tables on the sidewalk and seen a homeless guy with his pants literally filled with shit sitting at one... you understand the problem. I don't care what country you're in; cloth seats on mass transit are dumb. They just can't be adequately cleaned. In Paris, a city allegedly suffering from a bedbug outbreak, I'd expect most people to question their use.