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I can't disagree with this strongly enough. The whole "well their side did something bad so that justifies this action in return" is exactly what caused this p

by nl 3y ago

I can't disagree with this strongly enough. The whole "well their side did something bad so that justifies this action in return" is exactly what caused this problem in the first place. To continue it only invites escalation.

tannedNerd 3y ago
This isn’t eye for an eye. It’s simply amplifying their own statements. If they don’t like the attention, don’t make such horrible statements that blame innocent victims for their own deaths. Plus many organizations have realized that this letter was not appropriate, I think that putting more pressure on people who think that this statement is fine is American. I would think we don’t support people who murder innocents is a universal moral concept in the USA.
- nl 3y ago
  See the counter argument there is that they weren't blaming innocents for their own deaths, they were saying the government of Israel is responsible for the situation. And then it will turn into "oh but Israeli actions are/are not justified military action" etc etc. And then it will turn out that many of the people doxxed didn't actually sign the letter and do not agree with it and merely signed up to a mailinglist/membership/something. And then someone will physically attack someone who was doxxed. etc This cycle doesn't get stopped by amplifying bad actions.
NicoJuicy 3y ago
Not giving a strong response ( 2014) invites more escalation by the agressor ( 2022 - Russia ). Israel is almost surrounded by extremist Muslims/ Arabs, which hasn't changed much in those decades. 1948 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_Wa... Tbh. I don't think Israel has much of a choice to be safe for another couple of decades.
- nl 3y ago
  Are you comparing writing a letter to invading Ukraine and saying both require similar deterrence? That seems a fairly extreme position to take?

by nl 3y ago

tannedNerd 3y ago

This isn’t eye for an eye. It’s simply amplifying their own statements. If they don’t like the attention, don’t make such horrible statements that blame innocent victims for their own deaths. Plus many organizations have realized that this letter was not appropriate, I think that putting more pressure on people who think that this statement is fine is American. I would think we don’t support people who murder innocents is a universal moral concept in the USA.

nl 3y ago
See the counter argument there is that they weren't blaming innocents for their own deaths, they were saying the government of Israel is responsible for the situation. And then it will turn into "oh but Israeli actions are/are not justified military action" etc etc. And then it will turn out that many of the people doxxed didn't actually sign the letter and do not agree with it and merely signed up to a mailinglist/membership/something. And then someone will physically attack someone who was doxxed. etc This cycle doesn't get stopped by amplifying bad actions.

NicoJuicy 3y ago

Not giving a strong response ( 2014) invites more escalation by the agressor ( 2022 - Russia ). Israel is almost surrounded by extremist Muslims/ Arabs, which hasn't changed much in those decades. 1948 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_Wa... Tbh. I don't think Israel has much of a choice to be safe for another couple of decades.

nl 3y ago
Are you comparing writing a letter to invading Ukraine and saying both require similar deterrence? That seems a fairly extreme position to take?