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I find that the many of the collective western reaction to this recent events is no different from some the reaction of russians against people opposing the war
by bluish29 3y ago
I find that the many of the collective western reaction to this recent events is no different from some the reaction of russians against people opposing the war in Ukraine.
In Germany police will harras/arrest you if you are wearing Palestinian flag even before this events. They even ban any try to organize any event in nakba (anniversary of Palestinians losing their land) [1]
There is a suggestion to the English police that waving the Palestinian flag could/should be a criminal act [2]
Biden is spreading false accusation trying to de-humanize a party in the conflict [3]. He is sending one of the biggest aircraft carriers in the world against people the vast majority of whom never even seen a plane in their life (except the Isreali planes bombing them).
The Isreali defence minister is literally using a language that was used during previous genocidal events. He literally said thet they are in a fight with "human animals" [4]
The western leades are giving a white/plain check for isreal to do whatever it want without check. This will definitely lead to a massacre no matter how you see it. If you want to justify it as they weren't the one who started. Well I have many bridges to sell you.
But really the question is that. lets assume a world where every Palestinian drop their weapon and never act in violence. Will the US, EU and others come and force isreal to let them have their state?
Will the two state solution ever be implemented as a good gesture from the occupiers? Did George Washington kick out the British with appealing to their good well?
Of course there will be an explosion. If you took people's land, treat them like shit, put them in an open prison and bomb them every couple of months then they will explode. And if they do and you keep doing it with more intensity with the support of the Western world as we see now then you will not expect things to get better.
Can isreal destroy every inch in gaza?
yes they can. They can kill a million people there. They can even nuke the shit our of gaza. will this stop Palestinian resistance? Of course no. They are cornered. You did not leave anything to them. They don't have freedom, good life or anything. You want to kick them out of their land. Isreal was never serious about two state solutions before and definitely not now with the rise of their right wing.
Death to arab is a usual slogan by extremist settlers.[5]. Heck even they have a minister in the government who say this in plain sight [6]. It is hurting that a lot of Isreali civilians are killed in recent actions but lets be self consistent and consider that both in pure numbers and with alot suffering over decades you will not see even one year without having an order of magnitude more Palestinian civilians getting killed by Isreali troops and settlers.
If the west is serious about human life then it would be a human life. If the western leaders are thinking using a crusader mind that these are arabs and Muslims (The other people, the enemy)then lets be honest about that. Again we see the hypocritical treatment of human life.
In this conflict there are root causes. If anyone is serious about anything regarding that. Then they will look into these causes and try to address them. Until then there will be violence and except if justice is served or until the world observe Palestinians gets eliminated until their last soul, things will never improve.
And yes, this is a very political comment but it is more of a common sense that a lot of people are missing. A lot of people even don't want to address that they have a bias against us because we are the other. The people of middle east, arabs and Muslims were for centuries the other, the enemy of the west. Things has improved and I am not saying that this is true in absolute terms but there are a hidden bias (and sometimes an obvious feeling of superiority) against those people. If you deny it by words but all your actions and alignment are doing the opposite it doesn't mean much.
I hope thaf one day things will improve and that one day justice will be served without the madness that we are seeing now.
[1] https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/05/20/berlin-bans-nakba-day-demonstrations https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/05/20/berlin-bans-nakba-day-de...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/10/people-supporting-hamas-in-uk-will-be-held-to-account-says-rishi-sunak https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/10/people-supp...
[3] https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/ https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-s...
[4] https://humanevents.com/2023/10/09/breaking-israeli-defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-on-gaza https://humanevents.com/2023/10/09/breaking-israeli-defense-...
[5] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_Arabs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_Arabs
[6] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/27/itamar-ben-gvir-israels-minister-of-chaos https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/27/itamar-ben-gvi...
- beernet 3y ago> The Isreali defence minister is literally using a language that was used during previous genocidal events. He literally said thet they are in a fight with "human animals" [4] Any idea why he would say that?
- dragonwriter 3y agoBecause that kind of language is a distraction from the way that actively supporting Hamas to keep Palestinians divided even despite their terrorism and increasing capacity has long been the Netanyahu (and for even longer, Israeli) policy. Heck, Hamas largely exists because Israel funded the Islamist network that grew into it to weaken the PLO's support among Palestinians decades ago, and supporting Hamas as a counterweight to first the PLO and later the PA has been a long-term policy that periodically blows up in Israel's face, and when it does, it becomes very important to distract from the policy that led up to it.
- pauldenton 3y agoHamas largely exists because Palestinians give them political power. Same way Putin's party exists because the people of Russia give him political power
- tguvot 3y agohe was referring to hamas. not to population of gaza in general. people in israel are somewhat emotional those days. biggest jewish civilian life loss since wwII in one day. if you extrapolate it to us population, it's if 37000 civilians are murdered in 1 day in brutal way. pretty much everbody in israel either lost somebody or knows somebody who did.
- bluish29 3y agoDoes this Make the Isreali military human animals? because in pure numbers they killed much more Palestinians. And much more per capita from Palestine population over the years? All the comments (and down votes) are not responding to my comment in a good faith and ignoring my core message is that it is not about isreal loses this week. The conflict root causes are the injustice. You cannot for example start the events in Ukraine from Ukrainian attacks on kirch bridge and crimea that cause civilians casualties. This will be dishonest and all people will agree on this. But somehow isreal always gets exception and a pass for anything. And someone here described my comment as propaganda although I just described facts. How much Palestinian needs to die for your liking so that you will consider this genocide. How much injustice do you want them to suffer? Cutting food, water supply and prevention of any aid to enter while doing mass bombing is not enough. The US military nuked two cities full of civilians and half of the American still consider that this was a good thing to end a war. The logic ia being used by some people and I am afraid that it will be employed against the Palestinian population. Ignoring all my comment and facts I provided via western sources and the lie spread by biden in plain sight and down voting is just dishonest. It will be always the case that in the western world the life of Palestinians are cheap. The history begins always at the point where isreal wants. You support apartheid state that declare itself as it is. The world is watching all that in silence. The classic video from 2021 describes an interaction in Jerusalem between settler and Palestinian evicted from their home and bonus point a quick interview with him. [1] being blind to all this is something unbelievable. [1] https://youtu.be/_hwJczFoDhc?feature=shared https://youtu.be/_hwJczFoDhc?feature=shared