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> Oh yes, I've experienced a similar problem with ChatGPT. I asked it to look up a certain fact and provide references, and the ones it did provide ended up bei
by toasteros 3y ago
> Oh yes, I've experienced a similar problem with ChatGPT. I asked it to look up a certain fact and provide references, and the ones it did provide ended up being quasi URLs which didn't actually work.
To be clear, the references Quick Answer provides are legitimate, since they are taken from the search results. The results for my name provide a reference to my namesake's obituary and also to my public profile on the institution website. ie "[ToasterOS] died in 2013[1] and he currently works as a [Job Title][2]". It's just a pretty unique situation where a full name search returns an obit AND a living person's profile on the same website. ChatGPT will indeed create completely bogus references when asked, but this isn't that.
> This seems interesting, though I'm secretly (or not so, now it's on here) hoping it's not another lazy ChatGPT integration
I believe it's GPT but it is their own implementation of FastGPT instead of an API thing.
> This is intriguing -- may I ask in what way it's better? Are there any anecdotes you could share?
I search a LOT. In fact the billing page says I've made 540 searches since September 24th; maybe that's higher than most or significantly lower, I don't know. I find search is my main entrypoint into the web; I rarely use bookmarks or anything, and I'll often search things that I want updates on.
As a VERY silly example - I play Old School RuneScape (OSRS). OSRS has two Wikis - an official one, and a crappy one hosted on Fandom. Google tends to prioritise results from the Fandom wiki, which is full of inaccurate information as well as all the other warts Fandom has. Kagi immediately put the official Wiki ahead of that, and also gave me the option to completely remove the Fandom Wiki from future searches. I realise using a search engine as an entrypoint to a Wiki is quite silly, but Wiki searches tend to require exact terminology whereas a web search allows me to be more fuzzy. So, I'm generally finding I can search on Kagi for the functions of things in the game, and subsequently be lead to the correct Wiki article on the correct Wiki right away.
To be a little more real though - I am finding Kagi does an excellent job of cutting out dead internet cruft out of results. One of my favourite pieces of content on the web is a winemaking guide on creating 32-bit winebottles[0]. Spammy, automatically generated articles like this one don't appear in my results for things. I instead find that legitimate content is put ahead of it, and so I find I can trust the top results more. And, in cases where bad content is being prioritised - I can just block it.
I haven't got much use out of them yet but I also quite enjoy the Lenses feature, which allows me to hone in my search to a specific "part" of the web. I also have presences in two countries, and it's nice to be able to select which country I want my search to "take place in".
And then there is just... it's not Google. I hope it remains a decent company for a long time, because I really am happier knowing I'm paying for a service with currency instead of just...incidentally via my participation.
[0]: https://www.slowine.com/how-to-make-a-32-bit-wine-bottle/ https://www.slowine.com/how-to-make-a-32-bit-wine-bottle/