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I have a Tesla. I'm eligible for the FSD beta. Autopilot is great. It does the boring repetitive parts of driving. It behaves predictably in response to stimul
by akerl_ 3y ago
I have a Tesla. I'm eligible for the FSD beta.
Autopilot is great. It does the boring repetitive parts of driving. It behaves predictably in response to stimuli, and generally errs on the side of caution. This causes it to be suboptimal in ways that the driver can account for. As an example: when making lane changes, Autopilot is very sluggish, to the point that if there's any traffic at all, you have to give it a kick on the accelerator to complete the move.
FSD is a trashfire. I'd say the closest description is like you're constantly supervising a 15 year old learning to drive for the first time. Where I live, it'll disregard no-right-on-red and creep past stop lines that are set back from a light. It'll try to take turns and then lose track of which lane it wanted. The cognitive load of babysitting FSD is worse than just doing the driving myself.
- userbinator 3y agoI'd say the closest description is like you're constantly supervising a 15 year old learning to drive for the first time. This is precisely it. It'll work a lot of the time, deceptively well, but you need to be as attentive as a driving instructor to intervene when it makes a mistake.
- starik36 3y agoWhen you say Autopilot, you mean AutoSteer, right?
- WXLCKNO 3y agoMy BMW has lane assist and lane switching that's fast and reliable + adaptive cruise. Don't think I'm missing much of the Tesla experience.
- justapassenger 3y agoAutopilot is nowadays nothing special. Majority of cars have (at least as options) systems that are often better (for example, with much much less phantom braking).
- wolverine876 3y agoHow does lane switching benefit you? What exactly does it do?
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- WXLCKNO 3y agoWhen you're cruising along on the high way with assisted driving on, you just use your turn signal and it switches lanes for you if it's safe or waits until it's safe to do so. For long distance driving it's a super relaxing experience
- 8note 3y ago> Where I live, it'll disregard no-right-on-red and creep past stop lines that are set back from a light. It'll try to take turns and then lose track of which lane it wanted. This all sounds like a typical driver. I imagine it's matching the training set pretty well
- Tommstein 3y ago> FSD is a trashfire. I'd say the closest description is like you're constantly supervising a 15 year old learning to drive for the first time. Rented a Tesla for a day a couple years ago, and can confirm. I spent the day experiencing a car repeatedly trying to murder me for the first time in my life, and mainly during what's supposed to be easier highway driving at that.
- wilg 3y agoFSD beta is significantly better on highways than the current standard Autopilot. It is a total crapshoot on surface streets. The cognitive load is definitely higher than manual driving on surface streets still, the highway it’s less.
- bumby 3y agoThis is why I think some of their safety stats are misleading. It’s much easier to rack up safe mileage on the highway. I’d like to see some standard set for the driving needed to develop these stats, similar to what the EPA does for emissions. It has flaws for sure, but it’s less likely to be gamed.
- wilg 3y agoBetter data is fine with me.
- hudon 3y agoEven Autopilot can't be trusted in my experience. I've had it slam on the breaks countless times when the light changes (going under an overpass or through a tunnel). I've had it swerve over yellow lines, or onto the shoulder, or into a turning lane while I wasn't planning on turning. The only time I ever use it is when I'm going straight on a highway and I need to blow my nose... then I quickly turn it off.
- userbinator 3y agoor through a tunnel No doubt that lead to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34327763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34327763