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Honestly, I drop support for IE <=8 for most of my sites. IE9 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff (usually 1 small hack around pe

Honestly, I drop support for IE <=8 for most of my sites. IE9 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff (usually 1 small hack around per problem). IE doesn't pose as much of a problem as, say, Android browser or Mobile Safari which will do things like ignore overflow:auto. I can't imagine supporting IE 9+ would take that much money. But then again, I don't run a startup.

artichokeheart 15y ago
IE8 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff IE7 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff IE6 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff Isn't that the point
- SEMW 15y ago
  ...No, not really. The extra development work required to support IE9 on top of other browsers is vastly smaller than that for IE6. It's a cost-benefit analysis. Messing about with words by stretching the what you can reasonably describe as "few glitches and IE specific stuff" to try and draw a false equivalence doesn't change the actual analysis.
mattbriggs 15y ago
IE10 looks like it will be the first version to not take much work. 9 is not as glaring as 7 or 8, but it is definitely the lowest common denominator.
- lucisferre 15y ago
  For a browser that was supposed to be very standards compliant I'm always very surprised by how often a design that looks great in Firefox, Chrome and Safari bails in IE9.
  - sounds 15y ago
    This. IE8 still has the largest market share among IE versions, with IE9 growing [1]. IE8 is way too painful. IE9 is starting to go from "huge pain" to just within the realm of possibility. IE10 is a different story. Maybe. [1] http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/browsing-behavior-in-february-internet-explorer-chrome-down-firefox-up.ars http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/browsing-behavi... - as of Feb 2012, IE8 had ~25% and IE9 had ~15%, source: Net Market Share
    - SurfScore 15y ago
      You know, I think Microsoft may actually be getting their shit together (gasp). IE9 definitely isn't a bad browser, and 10 better than 9. I think they might be learning finally that they can't get away with putting out supbar products anymore, because its too easy to switch now. Granted, I think doing things differently is in Microsoft's DNA, but IE9, as well as starting forced upgrades, shows that they might actually be competitive at some point...
      - mattbriggs 15y ago
        Honestly, they have been getting their shit together since 7, they were just so far behind that it has taken this long to have enough impact that devs don't want to stab their eyes out rather then support it. IMO they should have either switched to webkit (or at least forked it and started again from a better place) years ago

artichokeheart 15y ago

IE8 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff IE7 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff IE6 is pretty good and aside from a few glitches and IE specific stuff Isn't that the point

SEMW 15y ago
...No, not really. The extra development work required to support IE9 on top of other browsers is vastly smaller than that for IE6. It's a cost-benefit analysis. Messing about with words by stretching the what you can reasonably describe as "few glitches and IE specific stuff" to try and draw a false equivalence doesn't change the actual analysis.

mattbriggs 15y ago

IE10 looks like it will be the first version to not take much work. 9 is not as glaring as 7 or 8, but it is definitely the lowest common denominator.

lucisferre 15y ago
For a browser that was supposed to be very standards compliant I'm always very surprised by how often a design that looks great in Firefox, Chrome and Safari bails in IE9.
- sounds 15y ago
  This. IE8 still has the largest market share among IE versions, with IE9 growing [1]. IE8 is way too painful. IE9 is starting to go from "huge pain" to just within the realm of possibility. IE10 is a different story. Maybe. [1] http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/browsing-behavior-in-february-internet-explorer-chrome-down-firefox-up.ars http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/browsing-behavi... - as of Feb 2012, IE8 had ~25% and IE9 had ~15%, source: Net Market Share
  - SurfScore 15y ago
    You know, I think Microsoft may actually be getting their shit together (gasp). IE9 definitely isn't a bad browser, and 10 better than 9. I think they might be learning finally that they can't get away with putting out supbar products anymore, because its too easy to switch now. Granted, I think doing things differently is in Microsoft's DNA, but IE9, as well as starting forced upgrades, shows that they might actually be competitive at some point...
    - mattbriggs 15y ago
      Honestly, they have been getting their shit together since 7, they were just so far behind that it has taken this long to have enough impact that devs don't want to stab their eyes out rather then support it. IMO they should have either switched to webkit (or at least forked it and started again from a better place) years ago