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Whew, glad this dodged the "woo". I've seen similar reports like this, that fail to detect any parapsychological assertions. I often wonder if people who have t
by demondemidi 3y ago
Whew, glad this dodged the "woo". I've seen similar reports like this, that fail to detect any parapsychological assertions. I often wonder if people who have these experiences have ever done hallucinogens. I have a feeling that if someone has previously experienced the flimsy nature of perceived reality, they wouldn't be so quick to ascribe near-death experiences to something supernatural.
- aradox66 3y agoThere are many NDE experiences who have experience with psychedelics and discuss the comparison! As far as I've seen they are more or less unanimous is asserting a categorical difference, but I haven't seen done any systematic research or anything.
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- corry 3y agoI agree - it always just sounds like a heavy psychedelic experience like 5-meo or high-doses of mushrooms etc. But then again, part of the beauty of the psychedelic realization of the 'flimsy nature of perceived reality' is also realizing that our non-intoxicated / non-NDE mental state is also not necessarily 'true reality' either. So IMO still plenty of room for ghosts in the machines :)
- OfSanguineFire 3y agoConsidering that a popular hallucinogen today, DMT (with or without the ayahuasca ritual), commonly leaves users with the conviction that the drug really opened a portal to another dimension inhabited by godlike entities, and didn’t just scramble their synapses like e.g. LSD – I think that the experience you suggest wouldn’t necessary dissuade people from reaching for a supernatural explanation.
- demondemidi 3y agoAhh good point. I'm from a much older generation and the new drugs are outside my experience if they really provide that kind of vibe.
- thelittleone 3y agoI've had several NDEs and also worked with plan medicines (facilitating and dieting in the amazon) for close to 10 years. In my experience there's a very different feeling between a perceived reality and an NDE vision (or similar visions that cut through the illusory nature of reality).
- demondemidi 3y agoI had three NDEs well. I found my NDEs to be more like dreams. Very relaxing dreams.
- npteljes 3y agoI agree with this take. For many, it seems like that their NDE was also their first psychedelic experience. So then the two is conflated.