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There’s still nothing stopping anyone from turning their phone off or leaving it at home.

by sneak 3y ago

carabiner 3y ago
Yes there is, it's lack of willpower. The source of all personal failings in the world.
- syncbehind 3y ago
  >The source of all personal failings in the world. Oh yea, my kidney definitely died because of a lack of willpower. Indubitably.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    "Personal failing" has idiomatic meaning, it specifically refers to things which are that person's fault. Medical issues generally don't count as "personal failings". If you did something wrong that caused a medical problem, that could be a personal failing. For instance if your organ failed because you drove your motorcycle too fast and crashed, that could be described as a personal failing.
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    How is a dead kidney a "personal" failure?
doublerabbit 3y ago
There isn't, but most won't nor will they fight the urge of "i wonder what's happening on XYZ, I better turn it back on!"
- Unfrozen0688 3y ago
  This is for texting, calls and 56k browsing at most. X wont load.
  - lxgr 3y ago
    Well, Twitter did start out as a (at least partially) text/SMS-based service, and it and Starlink do have the same owner now :)
mrtksn 3y ago
There is nothing stopping anyone from quit gambling or smoking or drinking and yet there are enormous number of people struggling with it.
- lxgr 3y ago
  Arguably a better comparison would be food: Many people struggle with obesity, but limiting access to food is not really the way to help with that.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    Good analogy.
  - sneak 3y ago
    There is abundant food in places without obesity epidemics. The problem is food policy in the US, not abundance.
    - lxgr 3y ago
      Exactly, and likely the availability/affordability of nutritious food as well. And to loop the analogy back – I don't think ubiquitous network reachability is ultimately a big problem; it's what we do with it: Social expectations around constant availability to respond, addictive/heavily gamified applications, etc.
  - Aerbil313 3y ago
    A counter example is alcohol prohibition in Islam: It worked and to this day to to a great extent still works, unlike failed American Prohibition.
rcpt 3y ago
But there was something special about everyone being disconnected on the summit at the end of a long hike.

There’s still nothing stopping anyone from turning their phone off or leaving it at home.

by sneak 3y ago

There’s still nothing stopping anyone from turning their phone off or leaving it at home.

carabiner 3y ago

Yes there is, it's lack of willpower. The source of all personal failings in the world.

syncbehind 3y ago
>The source of all personal failings in the world. Oh yea, my kidney definitely died because of a lack of willpower. Indubitably.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  "Personal failing" has idiomatic meaning, it specifically refers to things which are that person's fault. Medical issues generally don't count as "personal failings". If you did something wrong that caused a medical problem, that could be a personal failing. For instance if your organ failed because you drove your motorcycle too fast and crashed, that could be described as a personal failing.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  How is a dead kidney a "personal" failure?

doublerabbit 3y ago

There isn't, but most won't nor will they fight the urge of "i wonder what's happening on XYZ, I better turn it back on!"

Unfrozen0688 3y ago
This is for texting, calls and 56k browsing at most. X wont load.
- lxgr 3y ago
  Well, Twitter did start out as a (at least partially) text/SMS-based service, and it and Starlink do have the same owner now :)

mrtksn 3y ago

There is nothing stopping anyone from quit gambling or smoking or drinking and yet there are enormous number of people struggling with it.

lxgr 3y ago
Arguably a better comparison would be food: Many people struggle with obesity, but limiting access to food is not really the way to help with that.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  Good analogy.
- sneak 3y ago
  There is abundant food in places without obesity epidemics. The problem is food policy in the US, not abundance.
  - lxgr 3y ago
    Exactly, and likely the availability/affordability of nutritious food as well. And to loop the analogy back – I don't think ubiquitous network reachability is ultimately a big problem; it's what we do with it: Social expectations around constant availability to respond, addictive/heavily gamified applications, etc.
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  A counter example is alcohol prohibition in Islam: It worked and to this day to to a great extent still works, unlike failed American Prohibition.

rcpt 3y ago

But there was something special about everyone being disconnected on the summit at the end of a long hike.