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Now you're back down to ad-hominem again. > you can’t use CUDA - which only works on Nvidia hardware Tell me you've never used CUDA without telling me you've

Now you're back down to ad-hominem again. > you can’t use CUDA - which only works on Nvidia hardware Tell me you've never used CUDA without telling me you've never used CUDA. Before Apple revoked Nvidia's certificates, they in fact did support CUDA on Apple hardware. You needed an Nvidia GPU to run it, but Apple hardware and software is a perfectly usable client: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/cuda/mac-driver-archive/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/cuda/mac-driver-archive... Failing that, Nvidia still maintains BSD-style drivers if Apple did let them install their drivers. Now you're going to yell at me about how this is an unrealistic workflow, but plugging your iPhone or Mac into a TV, DAC or external drive isn't. > just in case someone wants to carry around an Nvidua breakout box to do intensive GPU work on an iPhone. Sure. They exist, nothing on the technical side stops Apple from implementing it. My point is not that they must add the feature, but that it is totally possible if Apple didn't arbitrarily limit userspace drivers. Draw your own conclusions about it, I couldn't give less of a shit. If changing the iPhone to Thunderbolt and supporting eGPUs in software is equivalent to a "Homermobile" in your head, get a grip.

scarface_74 3y ago
> Before Apple revoked Nvidia's certificates, they in fact did support CUDA on Apple hardware. You needed an Nvidia GPU to run it, but Apple hardware and software is a perfectly usable client: > Now you're going to yell at me about how this is an unrealistic workflow, but plugging your iPhone or Mac into a TV, DAC or external drive isn't. So how large do you think the market is for an external GPU on a phone? If there were a market for it, why isn’t anyone doing it on an Android phone? We are talking about iPhones - not Macs. If you can engineer an Nvidia breakout box for ARM based Macs, there is nothing stopping you from turning off System Integrity Protection and installing an unsigned driver and you doing it yourself. > Failing that, Nvidia still maintains BSD-style drivers if Apple did let them install their drivers. You can turn off SIP right now and do it, good luck getting that working on an ARM based Mac where even Apple hasn’t architected a method yet to use third party GPUs. > Sure. They exist, nothing on the technical side stops Apple from implementing it. My point is not that they must add the feature, but that it is totally possible if Apple didn't arbitrarily limit userspace drivers. Draw your own conclusions about it, I couldn't give less of a shit. If there were a market for it on phones why doesn’t it exist for Android? > If changing the iPhone to Thunderbolt and supporting eGPUs in software is equivalent to a "Homermobile" in your head, get a grip. Yet no Android supports an external breakout box for eGPUs. Maybe it is a Homermobile? The iPad Pros do in fact support Thunderbolt.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Like I said in the last 2 comments, I honestly don't care about this. The fact that you reached for my CUDA meme as a legitimate counterpoint after being refuted so hard is almost heartbreaking. You can rest, you don't have to spend every opportunity grinding your axe on a corporation's behalf. It is really funny watching you be butthurt about European regulators though. Can we go back to that, or will I have to wait for the bill to hit frontpage again? If you're done complaining about that stuff, I don't think we have much more to talk about (sorry for cutting out the eGPU detour, hope you had fun).
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Have I been refuted? You could if you had the technical prowess create an Nvidia breakout box for the Mac right now Apple doesn’t stop you from doing anything you want. You brought up Apple stopping you from running CUDA on Apple hardware
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      > Have I been refuted? Hopefully you realize the original Europe claims were absurd. But uhh... up to you pal. Clearly we live worlds apart. > You could if you had the technical prowess create an Nvidia breakout box for the Mac right now You can't even do it on Linux without official Nvidia drivers, which Apple refuses to sign for MacOS. Nouveau is veritably broken on modern GPU hardware; you either run the blob or get 2D raster output at 20FPS and no power management.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        What does Apple not signing drivers for MacOS have to do with it not running on Linux? And what part of you can disable system integrity protection on MacOS and run unsigned drivers is hard to comprehend?

scarface_74 3y ago

> Before Apple revoked Nvidia's certificates, they in fact did support CUDA on Apple hardware. You needed an Nvidia GPU to run it, but Apple hardware and software is a perfectly usable client: > Now you're going to yell at me about how this is an unrealistic workflow, but plugging your iPhone or Mac into a TV, DAC or external drive isn't. So how large do you think the market is for an external GPU on a phone? If there were a market for it, why isn’t anyone doing it on an Android phone? We are talking about iPhones - not Macs. If you can engineer an Nvidia breakout box for ARM based Macs, there is nothing stopping you from turning off System Integrity Protection and installing an unsigned driver and you doing it yourself. > Failing that, Nvidia still maintains BSD-style drivers if Apple did let them install their drivers. You can turn off SIP right now and do it, good luck getting that working on an ARM based Mac where even Apple hasn’t architected a method yet to use third party GPUs. > Sure. They exist, nothing on the technical side stops Apple from implementing it. My point is not that they must add the feature, but that it is totally possible if Apple didn't arbitrarily limit userspace drivers. Draw your own conclusions about it, I couldn't give less of a shit. If there were a market for it on phones why doesn’t it exist for Android? > If changing the iPhone to Thunderbolt and supporting eGPUs in software is equivalent to a "Homermobile" in your head, get a grip. Yet no Android supports an external breakout box for eGPUs. Maybe it is a Homermobile? The iPad Pros do in fact support Thunderbolt.

smoldesu 3y ago
Like I said in the last 2 comments, I honestly don't care about this. The fact that you reached for my CUDA meme as a legitimate counterpoint after being refuted so hard is almost heartbreaking. You can rest, you don't have to spend every opportunity grinding your axe on a corporation's behalf. It is really funny watching you be butthurt about European regulators though. Can we go back to that, or will I have to wait for the bill to hit frontpage again? If you're done complaining about that stuff, I don't think we have much more to talk about (sorry for cutting out the eGPU detour, hope you had fun).
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Have I been refuted? You could if you had the technical prowess create an Nvidia breakout box for the Mac right now Apple doesn’t stop you from doing anything you want. You brought up Apple stopping you from running CUDA on Apple hardware
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    > Have I been refuted? Hopefully you realize the original Europe claims were absurd. But uhh... up to you pal. Clearly we live worlds apart. > You could if you had the technical prowess create an Nvidia breakout box for the Mac right now You can't even do it on Linux without official Nvidia drivers, which Apple refuses to sign for MacOS. Nouveau is veritably broken on modern GPU hardware; you either run the blob or get 2D raster output at 20FPS and no power management.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      What does Apple not signing drivers for MacOS have to do with it not running on Linux? And what part of you can disable system integrity protection on MacOS and run unsigned drivers is hard to comprehend?