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>Also the MSAs are defined as 10k or above. Don’t be disingenuous, that was never my point. As stated in my other comment, 223/331 million people lived in metr

>Also the MSAs are defined as 10k or above. Don’t be disingenuous, that was never my point. As stated in my other comment, 223/331 million people lived in metro areas over 500k as of the last census, aka 67%. most people live in reasonably large cities. >Whether these boundaries are arbitrary or not is irrelevant as that is the tax base paying. I’d recommend you look a bit deeper into how public transit is funded, because this is patently false. The largest transit agency in the us, the NY MTA is a state agency. Public transit systems are generally funded by a combination of federal, state and local funding, often that local funding is a county or some other metropolitan transit funding district. >You need a 1M+ metro area to even consider it, and then providing full coverage is going to be difficult. Easy example of a city that has good public transit and is less than 1 million: Bern, metro population of 660k (just checked google maps and saw multiple bus routes with ten minute or less headways, along tram and trains networks).

nightski 3y ago
Oh so you have to steal from the surrounding communities to support your urban utopia. Got it. What if they need funds too from the state? I don't think you can compare the U.S. to Germany. Germany has like 6x to 7x the population density and is a much smaller country. Edit: Generally state funded projects benefit everyone in the state, including the interstate system. A local transit project that only affects one city not so much.
- comte7092 3y ago
  >Oh so you have to steal from the surrounding communities to support your urban utopia Funding services at the county/state level is stealing? That’s frankly an unhinged take. How do you think roads get funded? >I don't think you can compare the U.S. to Germany. Germany has like 6x to 7x the population density and is a much smaller country. 1. Bern is in Switzerland 2. Size of a country doesn’t matter, what matters is settlement patterns. The bus system in LA isn’t impacted by the existence of Nebraska.

nightski 3y ago

Oh so you have to steal from the surrounding communities to support your urban utopia. Got it. What if they need funds too from the state? I don't think you can compare the U.S. to Germany. Germany has like 6x to 7x the population density and is a much smaller country. Edit: Generally state funded projects benefit everyone in the state, including the interstate system. A local transit project that only affects one city not so much.

comte7092 3y ago
>Oh so you have to steal from the surrounding communities to support your urban utopia Funding services at the county/state level is stealing? That’s frankly an unhinged take. How do you think roads get funded? >I don't think you can compare the U.S. to Germany. Germany has like 6x to 7x the population density and is a much smaller country. 1. Bern is in Switzerland 2. Size of a country doesn’t matter, what matters is settlement patterns. The bus system in LA isn’t impacted by the existence of Nebraska.