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Plain cellular connectivity would be enough for that, just about every TV would have a good terrestrial cell signal.

bitdivision 3y ago
And this will almost certainly be more expensive than plain old cellular. TV manufacturers would be covering a very niche market of people who have a TV in a location with no cellular coverage.
keep_reading 3y ago
If it was economical to do it they would, but that's still a long ways away I think
- derefr 3y ago
  But I believe it's uneconomical more for licensing reasons than BOM reasons. Cellular baseband modems are an oligopoly, and so they attach all sorts of rev-share fees to use of their chips, beyond just the cost of the chip itself.
  - arcticbull 3y ago
    Apple actually owns the baseband/modem group they bought from Intel a couple of years ago. The 11 and 11 Pro were shipped with in-house ex-Intel modems. Since then they have moved back to Qualcomm but I have to imagine they're continuing development and will cut Qualcomm out one day. [1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/qualcomm-ceo-says-planning-for-apple-to-make-own-iphone-modems-from-2024-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/qualcomm-ceo-says-planning-f...
mikepurvis 3y ago
Yup, there are guides for how to open up your new TV and remove/disable the M2M modem inside. I don't think the cellular connection being in the sky will change too much about that.
- redblacktree 3y ago
  I'm sorry, what? My TV is phoning home over the cell network?
  - flkenosad 3y ago
    How do you think they make em so cheap?
    - redblacktree 3y ago
      I knew they phoned home in general, but it has generally been done over wifi. I'm surprised to hear that they are now including cell modems.
  - pests 3y ago
    How else would they bypass your home network and any firewalls in place? Novel problems require novel solutions.
- xnx 3y ago
  Would love to know more about this. I thought I had successfully neutered the Roku spyware on my TV by not giving it my network password.
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    They can and will connect to any free Wi-Fi

And this will almost certainly be more expensive than plain old cellular. TV manufacturers would be covering a very niche market of people who have a TV in a location with no cellular coverage.

keep_reading 3y ago

If it was economical to do it they would, but that's still a long ways away I think

derefr 3y ago
But I believe it's uneconomical more for licensing reasons than BOM reasons. Cellular baseband modems are an oligopoly, and so they attach all sorts of rev-share fees to use of their chips, beyond just the cost of the chip itself.
- arcticbull 3y ago
  Apple actually owns the baseband/modem group they bought from Intel a couple of years ago. The 11 and 11 Pro were shipped with in-house ex-Intel modems. Since then they have moved back to Qualcomm but I have to imagine they're continuing development and will cut Qualcomm out one day. [1] [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/qualcomm-ceo-says-planning-for-apple-to-make-own-iphone-modems-from-2024-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/01/qualcomm-ceo-says-planning-f...

mikepurvis 3y ago

Yup, there are guides for how to open up your new TV and remove/disable the M2M modem inside. I don't think the cellular connection being in the sky will change too much about that.

redblacktree 3y ago
I'm sorry, what? My TV is phoning home over the cell network?
- flkenosad 3y ago
  How do you think they make em so cheap?
  - redblacktree 3y ago
    I knew they phoned home in general, but it has generally been done over wifi. I'm surprised to hear that they are now including cell modems.
- pests 3y ago
  How else would they bypass your home network and any firewalls in place? Novel problems require novel solutions.
xnx 3y ago
Would love to know more about this. I thought I had successfully neutered the Roku spyware on my TV by not giving it my network password.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  They can and will connect to any free Wi-Fi