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How is anyone meant to be able to confirm or deny posts on a suprise war that is going on in real time? Surely this would mean that Facebook and X would have to
by rcarr 3y ago
How is anyone meant to be able to confirm or deny posts on a suprise war that is going on in real time? Surely this would mean that Facebook and X would have to have better intelligence than the actual military intelligence agencies? Even the letter accusing them of posting says they have "indications" not "we have evidence". I'm no Zuckerberg or Musk fan but I just don't see how it's humanly possible to meet these requirements.
And in this case at least, wouldn't it have had the opposite effect of what they wanted? By letting the terrorists post all these horrific videos the entire West is unified in damning Hamas. If these videos hadn't come to light, would the reaction be so strong?
What worries me, is that soon enough AI is going to be at the point where anyone with an agenda can generate clips like this and feed them to the populace and then we're going to see fighting break out in contested regions everywhere across the globe. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle, but I don't see anyway where this doesn't end up with the major social media giants being forced to tie user identity to national identitifiers like passports, with the end result being that each national intelligence agency passes on lists of who they consider to be terrorists, which are then either filtered out entirely (this will be preferred by the governments) or flagged with a warning by the social media company (this will be preferred by the companies). Either way, we're heading towards a fucking scary world.
What's then interesting, is whether governments will try to ban out of existence any websites that don't comply with the verify scheme, or if they'll force them, browsers or internet providers to display some sort of "unverified content" warning, like when you get a chrome warning page saying they can't verify the page and you might be vulnerable to attack.
- mozman 3y agoSafe harbor must be protected. If you start policing users it’s a super slippery slope.
- rcarr 3y agoI don't think governments should be allowed to silence people which is what will likely happen if something like this happens, but I also don't think people should have the right to do or say whatever they want online with no repercussions either. I think the sweet point would probably be allowing anyone to have their own personal or news website whilst banning any social media or comment section from being unverified. At least this way you can say everyone is entitled to their soapbox but they've got to stand by their words. This seems to be closest we can get to the real world to me. You don't get to be anonymous in real life - you can move to a new town and take on a new identity but if you're consistently an arsehole then you will soon be labelled and treated as such and get run out of town.
- logicalmonster 3y ago> I also don't think people should have the right to do or say whatever they want online with no repercussions either Are there not circumstances where relative anonymity is desirable and reasonable? What if I'm a refugee facing roundup by the death squads? What if I'm a person of color in a racist environment? What if I'm trans and fear hatred and genocide for my gender expression? What if I'm a political dissident in an authoritarian regime? What if I want to help give women the right to choose and I fear violence? What I believe in X God in a country where believing in Y God is the law of the land? What if I'm a medical professional who wants to give gender affirming care in a location where that's resisted? What if I'm a woman who wants to speak up? What if I'm a whistleblower against corporate malfeasance and am afraid? What if I'm speaking out about the cops in a corrupt town and fear reprisal? Is it just that under your system, my choices are either silence or violence? > You don't get to be anonymous in real life Don't you? Pen names to publish political statements that could harm have been a thing for a long time.