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>misinformation about elections is taken "extremely seriously" under the DSA Speaking as a card carrying DSA member who primaried many folks... well actually

by clubm8 3y ago

>misinformation about elections is taken "extremely seriously" under the DSA Speaking as a card carrying DSA member who primaried many folks... well actually my wallet was stolen but you get the idea... Speaking as someone who joined the DSA post Trump... people tend to get really pissy if you accuse them of being a Russian robot one too many times :-)

ComputerGuru 3y ago
The DSA you speak of is not the DSA (Digital Services Act) the article refers to. (I didn’t downvote, fwiw.)
- clubm8 3y ago
  You can vote however you want, it was a small joke. I was drawing attention to the fact that "disinformation" is at it's core, someone who has no right to vote in an election trying to influence those who do, and how we often paint lawful, protected speech as disinformation, either by direct retorts "Russian bot!" or... downvoting. Vote however you want friends, I play by "Whose Line" rules -- it's all made up and the points don't matter... hence accounting for the multi year GAP in my posts.
  - jruohonen 3y ago
    > I was drawing attention to the fact that "disinformation" is at it's core, someone who has no right to vote in an election trying to influence those who do While the terminology is still awful, I think this was an insightful attempt toward trying to frame the issue as exported propaganda by foreign actors.
    - clubm8 3y ago
      >while the terminology is still awful, I think this was an insightful attempt toward trying to frame the issue as exported propaganda by foreign actors thank you. i need to be more diplomatic, but i don't like having my patriotism questioned when i haven't left the country since the obama administration and i have to admit, i went to a dark place after feeling like my advice was repeatedly ignored in parallel with my integrity being questioned. but... yeah... i DO need to joke less.
      - jruohonen 3y ago
        > but... yeah... i DO need to joke less. Please don't; I thought it was funny once I understood what you meant by DSA. By awful terminology, I referred to the whole concept of disinformation (and misinformation and whatnot).
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gambiting 3y ago
What's DSA?
- r00fus 3y ago
  DSA = Digital Services Act (original context) replied to by someone using DSA = Democratic Socialist of America (as a joke).
  - clubm8 3y ago
    the DSA is no joke -- we went from the irish mafia handing out fifty cent pieces to children at the halloween parade in my home township to libraries and grocery stores where they were neither before all across the county and we did it without firing a single shot. there are those of us who began to form memories as the USSR fell, who came of voting age during the not-so-great recession who have always been out of sync with this... timeline,,, even if we were born in a supposedly auspicious year's numerology. sorry for being too flippant if i was in contravention of the site guidelines, but so often i meet people who never read orwell beyond "1984" and it pains me to have sound, evidence based policy conflated with stalinism. (jospeh was a very bad man, and it scared me when people trundled up to me to tell me i look like young stalin as some sort of compliment or flirtation. real life is not a usa television series -- to do violence, to even think of it, changes you in terrible ways that those who cannot name me any other nabokov than lolita will never understand, for once you cross that line you can never go back, your innocence is gone and your world forever darkened, even if you don't actually pull the trigger but just think of how to place the shot.)

by clubm8 3y ago

ComputerGuru 3y ago

The DSA you speak of is not the DSA (Digital Services Act) the article refers to. (I didn’t downvote, fwiw.)

clubm8 3y ago
You can vote however you want, it was a small joke. I was drawing attention to the fact that "disinformation" is at it's core, someone who has no right to vote in an election trying to influence those who do, and how we often paint lawful, protected speech as disinformation, either by direct retorts "Russian bot!" or... downvoting. Vote however you want friends, I play by "Whose Line" rules -- it's all made up and the points don't matter... hence accounting for the multi year GAP in my posts.
- jruohonen 3y ago
  > I was drawing attention to the fact that "disinformation" is at it's core, someone who has no right to vote in an election trying to influence those who do While the terminology is still awful, I think this was an insightful attempt toward trying to frame the issue as exported propaganda by foreign actors.
  - clubm8 3y ago
    >while the terminology is still awful, I think this was an insightful attempt toward trying to frame the issue as exported propaganda by foreign actors thank you. i need to be more diplomatic, but i don't like having my patriotism questioned when i haven't left the country since the obama administration and i have to admit, i went to a dark place after feeling like my advice was repeatedly ignored in parallel with my integrity being questioned. but... yeah... i DO need to joke less.
    - jruohonen 3y ago
      > but... yeah... i DO need to joke less. Please don't; I thought it was funny once I understood what you meant by DSA. By awful terminology, I referred to the whole concept of disinformation (and misinformation and whatnot).
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gambiting 3y ago

What's DSA?

r00fus 3y ago
DSA = Digital Services Act (original context) replied to by someone using DSA = Democratic Socialist of America (as a joke).
- clubm8 3y ago
  the DSA is no joke -- we went from the irish mafia handing out fifty cent pieces to children at the halloween parade in my home township to libraries and grocery stores where they were neither before all across the county and we did it without firing a single shot. there are those of us who began to form memories as the USSR fell, who came of voting age during the not-so-great recession who have always been out of sync with this... timeline,,, even if we were born in a supposedly auspicious year's numerology. sorry for being too flippant if i was in contravention of the site guidelines, but so often i meet people who never read orwell beyond "1984" and it pains me to have sound, evidence based policy conflated with stalinism. (jospeh was a very bad man, and it scared me when people trundled up to me to tell me i look like young stalin as some sort of compliment or flirtation. real life is not a usa television series -- to do violence, to even think of it, changes you in terrible ways that those who cannot name me any other nabokov than lolita will never understand, for once you cross that line you can never go back, your innocence is gone and your world forever darkened, even if you don't actually pull the trigger but just think of how to place the shot.)