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The idea of a 'car-free lifestyle' is not about never needing a car. It is about not going absolutely everywhere in a car. It's more a freedom from a car-depen

The idea of a 'car-free lifestyle' is not about never needing a car. It is about not going absolutely everywhere in a car. It's more a freedom from a car-dependance, than it is about being rid of a car altogether (although many do that).

dingnuts 3y ago
It seriously depends on who you talk to. Places like r/fuckcars do not give the same impression as your comment. On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad"
- Swenrekcah 3y ago
  I don't know r/fuckcars but I can imagine the tiny fraction of people who frequent there don't like cars. And the tiny fraction of a fraction of those that post and comment there dislike cars even more. I don't think that view should become the basis for anyone's understanding of people's general view. It is sort of like browsing r/qanon and thinking that's conservatism. > On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad" That's not a great way to approach conversation.
- Mawr 3y ago
  Isn't a "stroad" just a name for a street designed like a road? Is it inherently a negative word or does it just seem that way due to the anti-car context in which it typically appears?
  - Swenrekcah 3y ago
    I tend to think of it as inherently negative. A road is to connect remote places, it is to be used by cars and they travel fast. A street is the space in between buildings of a town or city where people go about their business. Some use cars, preferably most don’t cause they take a lot if space. But the street is for people, the inhabitants of the town. A stroad is a place where people live in terror and then die. I like cars, I have one, regularly drive it and like to go fast when on highways and such. But they are dangerous and terrifying tools in the context of a town/city, especially for kids. If I’m driving near people, I drive carefully, slowly and the street needs to be designed in such a way that it induces that kind of driving.

dingnuts 3y ago

It seriously depends on who you talk to. Places like r/fuckcars do not give the same impression as your comment. On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad"

Swenrekcah 3y ago
I don't know r/fuckcars but I can imagine the tiny fraction of people who frequent there don't like cars. And the tiny fraction of a fraction of those that post and comment there dislike cars even more. I don't think that view should become the basis for anyone's understanding of people's general view. It is sort of like browsing r/qanon and thinking that's conservatism. > On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad" That's not a great way to approach conversation.
Mawr 3y ago
Isn't a "stroad" just a name for a street designed like a road? Is it inherently a negative word or does it just seem that way due to the anti-car context in which it typically appears?
- Swenrekcah 3y ago
  I tend to think of it as inherently negative. A road is to connect remote places, it is to be used by cars and they travel fast. A street is the space in between buildings of a town or city where people go about their business. Some use cars, preferably most don’t cause they take a lot if space. But the street is for people, the inhabitants of the town. A stroad is a place where people live in terror and then die. I like cars, I have one, regularly drive it and like to go fast when on highways and such. But they are dangerous and terrifying tools in the context of a town/city, especially for kids. If I’m driving near people, I drive carefully, slowly and the street needs to be designed in such a way that it induces that kind of driving.