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truly dystopian to live in a VC backed neighborhood where you don't own anything... Maybe if you were recent graduate for a few years. The whole idea of not ne

truly dystopian to live in a VC backed neighborhood where you don't own anything... Maybe if you were recent graduate for a few years. The whole idea of not needing a car is also not even that exciting. You don't exist in a vacuum in your tiny neighborhood in a larger city, you still probably need to get to work, US does not build good enough public transportation especially in these less dense cities. If you want to get out anywhere else in city or leave you'd probably want or need a car. Most people who live in NYC live close to people and surprise also do not need cars.

Swenrekcah 3y ago
The idea of a 'car-free lifestyle' is not about never needing a car. It is about not going absolutely everywhere in a car. It's more a freedom from a car-dependance, than it is about being rid of a car altogether (although many do that).
- dingnuts 3y ago
  It seriously depends on who you talk to. Places like r/fuckcars do not give the same impression as your comment. On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad"
  - Swenrekcah 3y ago
    I don't know r/fuckcars but I can imagine the tiny fraction of people who frequent there don't like cars. And the tiny fraction of a fraction of those that post and comment there dislike cars even more. I don't think that view should become the basis for anyone's understanding of people's general view. It is sort of like browsing r/qanon and thinking that's conservatism. > On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad" That's not a great way to approach conversation.
  - Mawr 3y ago
    Isn't a "stroad" just a name for a street designed like a road? Is it inherently a negative word or does it just seem that way due to the anti-car context in which it typically appears?
    - Swenrekcah 3y ago
      I tend to think of it as inherently negative. A road is to connect remote places, it is to be used by cars and they travel fast. A street is the space in between buildings of a town or city where people go about their business. Some use cars, preferably most don’t cause they take a lot if space. But the street is for people, the inhabitants of the town. A stroad is a place where people live in terror and then die. I like cars, I have one, regularly drive it and like to go fast when on highways and such. But they are dangerous and terrifying tools in the context of a town/city, especially for kids. If I’m driving near people, I drive carefully, slowly and the street needs to be designed in such a way that it induces that kind of driving.
pchristensen 3y ago
"a VC backed neighborhood where you don't own anything" That's called "renting", and over 100,000,000 people in the USA do it. Also, the Culdesac is next to a light rail station.

Swenrekcah 3y ago

The idea of a 'car-free lifestyle' is not about never needing a car. It is about not going absolutely everywhere in a car. It's more a freedom from a car-dependance, than it is about being rid of a car altogether (although many do that).

dingnuts 3y ago
It seriously depends on who you talk to. Places like r/fuckcars do not give the same impression as your comment. On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad"
- Swenrekcah 3y ago
  I don't know r/fuckcars but I can imagine the tiny fraction of people who frequent there don't like cars. And the tiny fraction of a fraction of those that post and comment there dislike cars even more. I don't think that view should become the basis for anyone's understanding of people's general view. It is sort of like browsing r/qanon and thinking that's conservatism. > On that topic, I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "stroad" That's not a great way to approach conversation.
- Mawr 3y ago
  Isn't a "stroad" just a name for a street designed like a road? Is it inherently a negative word or does it just seem that way due to the anti-car context in which it typically appears?
  - Swenrekcah 3y ago
    I tend to think of it as inherently negative. A road is to connect remote places, it is to be used by cars and they travel fast. A street is the space in between buildings of a town or city where people go about their business. Some use cars, preferably most don’t cause they take a lot if space. But the street is for people, the inhabitants of the town. A stroad is a place where people live in terror and then die. I like cars, I have one, regularly drive it and like to go fast when on highways and such. But they are dangerous and terrifying tools in the context of a town/city, especially for kids. If I’m driving near people, I drive carefully, slowly and the street needs to be designed in such a way that it induces that kind of driving.

pchristensen 3y ago

"a VC backed neighborhood where you don't own anything" That's called "renting", and over 100,000,000 people in the USA do it. Also, the Culdesac is next to a light rail station.