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McLaren Sets New F1 Pit Stop Record: 1.80 Seconds
- metadat 3y agoDirect link to the video: https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1711344933280330123 https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1711344933280330123 Do the tires have no bolts, or now is this even possible? Watching it in action, I can't tell what is actually happening to get the wheels off and secure the fresh ones.
- tnorthcutt 3y agoHere's a video that goes into some detail on how they're attached: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X30coNL4Jw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X30coNL4Jw8
- aidenn0 3y agoIn the third angle, you can see the guy with the power-wrench for the left-front wheel. F1 cars have a single lug per wheel (which is a big reason why pits are faster than in NASCAR).
- ebagl3 3y agoF1 also ONLY does tires on a standard pit stop and are allowed to have people changing all tires at same time. NASCAR can only change 2 at a time
- rascul 3y agoNASCAR has single lug per wheel now.
- aidenn0 3y agoWow, I hadn't watched in a while. They apparently allow fuel-injection now too (NASCAR used carburetors through 2012!)
- ok_dad 3y agoThis isn’t your father’s NASCAR! THEY EVEN RACED ON DIRT AGAIN! One of the cars was even entered in 24h of Le Mans (garage56) and did pretty well. It’s actually pretty cool how they’re transforming it into something a bit more than driving around in a circle for hours.
- nemo44x 3y ago> It’s actually pretty cool how they’re transforming it into something a bit more than driving around in a circle for hours. Although I think it’s great to see dirt races (I grew up watching late model dirt tracks) I disagree that the super speedways are just driving around in a circle. One of the major factors of NASCAR was that the engines were built and tuned by the crew and the driver had to be able to push it to the limits over an extended period of time. Mistuning and/or too aggressive driving would blow the engine. The really good drivers knew when to push it over the edge for just a few moments to get advantage.
- ddoolin 3y agoI think once you're trying to explain that nuance, most of the audience (that NASCAR would like to tune in) has probably already tuned out. It is very welcome for them to start pivoting heavily towards road courses, dirt courses, and even street races (not to mention wet weather tires), as it opens up the field to WAY more driver skill sets and strategy than just tire falloff, fuel, and gaming restarts.
- nemo44x 3y agoIndeed. For me just the sound and the speed is enough but that doesn’t translate to TV well. NASCAR is a funny sport in that it was built around a particular technology around a particular time. The level of innovation the mechanics came up with really drive the sport. But the ICE is in many ways at end of life and it’s obvious they’ll be extinct in 30 years. So I suppose the sport has to evolve itself somehow.
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- dizhn 3y agoMy bike's rear is also a single lug. Including the time required to find and source the required tool it took me about 10 days to change the tire the first time.
- mdekkers 3y agoFun fact: The wheel impact guns are all custom-made for each team, there is a single company that makes them, Dino Paoli https://www.dinopaoli.com/en/motorsport/ https://www.dinopaoli.com/en/motorsport/ Also see https://www.finepowertools.com/drills/f1-wheel-gun/ https://www.finepowertools.com/drills/f1-wheel-gun/ for some more background
- karmakaze 3y agoWow. What really impresses me isn't how fast, it's how smooth everyone did their things in concert with everyone else. Smooth really is fast.
- riidom 3y agoDriver61 video about pit stop details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FrRnbHqogo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FrRnbHqogo (from three years ago)
- tibbydudeza 3y agoAlso no refueling either. Sometimes they adjust the angle of the front wing for better grip during the pitstop since this can't be changed by the driver from the cockpit (aero elements in F1 are strictly regulated) but it is rare in a race. The only element the driver can activate is the rear flap for rear wing (DRS) that becomes active during special zones on the track for less drag to make overtaking possible.
- junofan 3y agoWorth noting the teams are extremely secretive. It’s not unlikely some teams are using clever tricks like the driver pushing/pulling the steering column to adjust hydraulic pressure, etc.
- tibbydudeza 3y agoIn the past there were several tricks like the McLaren third pedal which were legal but not in the spirit of the regulations or the traction control system from Benneton which was hidden under a secret menu option. Recently Mercedes came up with a clever way of how their cars could corner which was legal and activated by pushing/pulling on the steering wheel. It was banned the next season though - you can be clever but cheating is not allowed - the loss of face - loss of points and money and prestige is severe now. Since they all use the same control electronics, the FIA gets real time telemetry send to them to watch for any funky tricks and wind tunnel usage time, and activity like in engine mapping modes (no changes allowed when a race starts) or fuel pump manipulation. They want teams to be at least on a level field so a smaller team has a realistic change of competing and scoring points like HAAS or Williams.
- justin66 3y agoIf you see them doing anything to the front wing during the race, it's almost certainly because of damage.
- minimaul 3y agoAdjusting front wing angle is standard practice during stops - they’ll certainly do it when they change tyre compound (eg from softer to harder tyres), and they do it quite often otherwise. They have specialised tools to do it too!
- rumblerock 3y agoThis is why I love F1. Over 20 people working the pit stop, and the driver hitting his marks perfectly, literally braking at the last possible moment to maximize speed up to the pit lane entry, all for tenths of a second that can be critical to track position. Say what you want about the action being boring at times, but the symphony required to make it all happen is the iceberg underneath what you see the driver doing in the car.
- avgDev 3y agoF1 cars are a marvel of engineering. For example, Mercedes hires about 1000+ people. It is absolutely insane how much is happening behind the scenes. It is also a very demanding place to work for everyone involved.
- junofan 3y agoMercedes HPP has another thousandish building engines in Brixworth. Crazy stuff.
- huytersd 3y agoDo the cars not need to refuel anymore? How are they doing all those laps on a single tank of gas?
- HALtheWise 3y agoRefueling has been banned for a number of years due to safety concerns. As a result, the teams have significantly improved engine efficiency to reduce the amount of fuel they need to carry at the beginning of the race.
- Detrytus 3y agoYes, the F1 engines have pretty low volume 1.6 liters, V6. They burn around 140 liters of fuel during the whole race. Pretty easy to fit a big enough tank into the car.