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I only recently started switching to FLAC, because I always felt space-constrained ;) At some point, I’ll have to redownload all those Bandcamp .ogg Albums.

everyone 3y ago
You know FLAC is an archive format right? If you are planning to transcode the music in future into new files then it's ok. If you're planning to simply listen to it, then mp3 v0 sounds identical and is much smaller.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  Well, while I listen to FLAC natively (pretty sure Jellyfin knows that all my clients are capable of FLAC playback), the whole point is that I won’t be dependent on Bandcamp existing in 40 years to still enjoy my music in the LLM generated meta-crypto-space that only supports Matroobis files ;) With the quality of my speakers (the fanciest being a Logitech 5.1 system), I could probably go even lower without hearing a difference ;)
- TonyTrapp 3y ago
  It's good to treat your music collection as an archive - it's not unheard of that artists pull their albums from Bandcamp or other services, with no possibility for you to redownload it if you ever decide that the format you downloaded it in is no longer up for the task. And especially with commercial releases you will never know if buying the release again in some other place will give you the same experience - it might be a bad remaster and getting hold of the original version might be impossible legally.
- bayindirh 3y ago
  Well, it doesn't but I'll not reiterate why, for the third time. If your system is not transparent enough, you can't hear what FLAC or a CD offers, and that's OK. MP3 v0 sounds pretty impressive given the album is not brickwalled.
  - majkinetor 3y ago
    I also use FLAC exclusively now. Space is not a problem any more and your archive can be used in many situations - different players, parties, as samples etc. Its not worth thinking about it. Furthermore, people that share FLAC are way more pedantic about their archive in general - like checking for re-encoding low quality mp3s, file hashs etc.
deadbunny 3y ago
I'd highly recommend bandcamp-collection-downloader[1]. As a heavy buyer of music from bandcamp it's great to just run a command[2] and have everything download while also keeping track of previous downloads so it doesn't re-download them. Personally I have them moved to a temp folder then I process/tag them with Picard[3] but you could probably automate that step with Beets[4] but I've not delved into it yet. 1. https://github.com/Ezwen/bandcamp-collection-downloader https://github.com/Ezwen/bandcamp-collection-downloader 2. https://gist.github.com/ryanwalder/d5d6d1d43b4b77fb92bde75b5eec2105 https://gist.github.com/ryanwalder/d5d6d1d43b4b77fb92bde75b5... (stick it in ~/bin/bandcamp and just run `bandcamp` to download everything) 3. https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ 4. https://github.com/beetbox/beets https://github.com/beetbox/beets
- Semaphor 3y ago
  Thanks, I actually got the idea from recently finding bandcamp-collection-downloader, as doing it by myself just does not sound like fun, at all :D The tagging I’ll keep manual (I have the Jellyfin library location shared via SMB and added the share to MediaMonkey on my Desktop PC) as I have specific needs for genre, by far my most important field besides the basics (Artist/Album/Year/Song, and those are all tagged properly by Bandcamp).
  - lloeki 3y ago
    > The tagging I’ll keep manual Picard is not automatic, I'd describe it mostly as "assisted". There's a two step process of track clustering and release metadata searching that are automatic, but each transition to the next step is manual so that you can review and adjust (either by using another matching method, fixing the lookup by pointing it to the correct release, or manually editing). There's a "gold disc" visual feedback for when it detected perfect matches. You can also decide if some/all tags should be updated from the global database or kept from the original file thus using the database as enrichment.
    - Semaphor 3y ago
      Yeah, but what is the advantage? Artist/Album/Track are already correct, genre I do manually. I don’t really use other tags.

everyone 3y ago

You know FLAC is an archive format right? If you are planning to transcode the music in future into new files then it's ok. If you're planning to simply listen to it, then mp3 v0 sounds identical and is much smaller.

Semaphor 3y ago
Well, while I listen to FLAC natively (pretty sure Jellyfin knows that all my clients are capable of FLAC playback), the whole point is that I won’t be dependent on Bandcamp existing in 40 years to still enjoy my music in the LLM generated meta-crypto-space that only supports Matroobis files ;) With the quality of my speakers (the fanciest being a Logitech 5.1 system), I could probably go even lower without hearing a difference ;)
TonyTrapp 3y ago
It's good to treat your music collection as an archive - it's not unheard of that artists pull their albums from Bandcamp or other services, with no possibility for you to redownload it if you ever decide that the format you downloaded it in is no longer up for the task. And especially with commercial releases you will never know if buying the release again in some other place will give you the same experience - it might be a bad remaster and getting hold of the original version might be impossible legally.
bayindirh 3y ago
Well, it doesn't but I'll not reiterate why, for the third time. If your system is not transparent enough, you can't hear what FLAC or a CD offers, and that's OK. MP3 v0 sounds pretty impressive given the album is not brickwalled.
- majkinetor 3y ago
  I also use FLAC exclusively now. Space is not a problem any more and your archive can be used in many situations - different players, parties, as samples etc. Its not worth thinking about it. Furthermore, people that share FLAC are way more pedantic about their archive in general - like checking for re-encoding low quality mp3s, file hashs etc.

deadbunny 3y ago

I'd highly recommend bandcamp-collection-downloader[1]. As a heavy buyer of music from bandcamp it's great to just run a command[2] and have everything download while also keeping track of previous downloads so it doesn't re-download them. Personally I have them moved to a temp folder then I process/tag them with Picard[3] but you could probably automate that step with Beets[4] but I've not delved into it yet. 1. https://github.com/Ezwen/bandcamp-collection-downloader https://github.com/Ezwen/bandcamp-collection-downloader 2. https://gist.github.com/ryanwalder/d5d6d1d43b4b77fb92bde75b5eec2105 https://gist.github.com/ryanwalder/d5d6d1d43b4b77fb92bde75b5... (stick it in ~/bin/bandcamp and just run `bandcamp` to download everything) 3. https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ 4. https://github.com/beetbox/beets https://github.com/beetbox/beets

Semaphor 3y ago
Thanks, I actually got the idea from recently finding bandcamp-collection-downloader, as doing it by myself just does not sound like fun, at all :D The tagging I’ll keep manual (I have the Jellyfin library location shared via SMB and added the share to MediaMonkey on my Desktop PC) as I have specific needs for genre, by far my most important field besides the basics (Artist/Album/Year/Song, and those are all tagged properly by Bandcamp).
- lloeki 3y ago
  > The tagging I’ll keep manual Picard is not automatic, I'd describe it mostly as "assisted". There's a two step process of track clustering and release metadata searching that are automatic, but each transition to the next step is manual so that you can review and adjust (either by using another matching method, fixing the lookup by pointing it to the correct release, or manually editing). There's a "gold disc" visual feedback for when it detected perfect matches. You can also decide if some/all tags should be updated from the global database or kept from the original file thus using the database as enrichment.
  - Semaphor 3y ago
    Yeah, but what is the advantage? Artist/Album/Track are already correct, genre I do manually. I don’t really use other tags.