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> Which makes it even more remarkable the company cares enough to include this kind of functionality in a consumer product. Maybe people are just starting to g

> Which makes it even more remarkable the company cares enough to include this kind of functionality in a consumer product. Maybe people are just starting to get sick of this argument being used against everything.

robertlagrant 3y ago
How is this an argument against anything?
- LoganDark 3y ago
  Whenever someone wants a new feature or gets disrupted by the loss of a previous feature, people go, "you have to think of the consumers. Consumers don't use those features, because consumers are stupid. I can't see why anyone would ever add/keep a feature that's not going to be used by those consumers." The comment I replied to didn't go nearly that far, but it's an argument I've seen so often that I feel compelled to point out that "consumers" are not the only target audience for Apple - they are trying to also market themselves to creators, as well as professionals, and they absolutely know the difference and notice when things like these become available.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    > people go, "you have to think of the consumers. Consumers don't use those features, because consumers are stupid. I can't see why anyone would ever add/keep a feature that's not going to be used by those consumers." Well, I don't think "people" generally do that. It's nothing to do with stupidity; just lack of need and interest. > The comment I replied to didn't go nearly that far Not just "didn't go that far", it wasn't anything to do with that. It was just articulating pleasant surprise. If I were to return this thread to its objective origin, I would agree that if you're selling a mass-market device, it's surprising to cater to a fractional percentage of that user base. I don't see how that's contentious.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      > if you're selling a mass-market device, it's surprising to cater to a fractional percentage of that user base. I don't see how that's contentious. I argue it shouldn't be that surprising because a lot of people find value in this 1%, and each person wants a different 1%. But maybe it's surprising because most companies are stupid and don't realize this.

robertlagrant 3y ago

How is this an argument against anything?

LoganDark 3y ago
Whenever someone wants a new feature or gets disrupted by the loss of a previous feature, people go, "you have to think of the consumers. Consumers don't use those features, because consumers are stupid. I can't see why anyone would ever add/keep a feature that's not going to be used by those consumers." The comment I replied to didn't go nearly that far, but it's an argument I've seen so often that I feel compelled to point out that "consumers" are not the only target audience for Apple - they are trying to also market themselves to creators, as well as professionals, and they absolutely know the difference and notice when things like these become available.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > people go, "you have to think of the consumers. Consumers don't use those features, because consumers are stupid. I can't see why anyone would ever add/keep a feature that's not going to be used by those consumers." Well, I don't think "people" generally do that. It's nothing to do with stupidity; just lack of need and interest. > The comment I replied to didn't go nearly that far Not just "didn't go that far", it wasn't anything to do with that. It was just articulating pleasant surprise. If I were to return this thread to its objective origin, I would agree that if you're selling a mass-market device, it's surprising to cater to a fractional percentage of that user base. I don't see how that's contentious.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    > if you're selling a mass-market device, it's surprising to cater to a fractional percentage of that user base. I don't see how that's contentious. I argue it shouldn't be that surprising because a lot of people find value in this 1%, and each person wants a different 1%. But maybe it's surprising because most companies are stupid and don't realize this.