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Any task that gets solved with AI retroactively becomes something that doesn't require reasoning.

• janalsncm 3y ago
  I wouldn’t say that. Chess certainly requires reasoning even if that reasoning is minimax. I suppose in the context of this article “AI” means statistical language models.
  • nomel 3y ago
    Why does chess require reasoning? Do all of the these [1] "reason"? ChatGPT-4 is supposedly rated worse than 500, in this list (1400 or so, although I think a recent update improved it a bit). [1] https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/4040/ https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/4040/
    • janalsncm 3y ago
      Within the domain of chess, searching the domain of possible future positions is synonymous with reasoning. It requires an explicit understanding of latent board representations and an explicit understanding of possible actions and the consequences of those actions. Whether ChatGPT has any of those things is questionable. From what I’ve seen, it has an unreliable latent representation, an unreliable understanding of possible moves, and a positional understanding that’s little better than a coin flip.
      • nomel 3y ago
        > Within the domain of chess, searching the domain of possible future positions is synonymous with reasoning. So, with this definition, these chess engines already exhibit (fairly substantial) reasoning? Or, are you saying it would be required, in the context of an LLM?