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> (Oddly, ... Why would that be odd? It's very common for speculative fiction to have a version of something before it is realized in the "real world".

by ska 3y ago

burnished 3y ago
Roughly two years makes it unlikely (but not impossible) for the book to have influenced the project.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  The book had not even been published at the time. Dick wrote it in 1962, it was serialized in 1969 and published in book form in 1972 so it could not have influenced Disney at all. I would though think that this Star Trek episode must have been informed by Disney's Lincoln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Curtain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Curtain even if there is no explict connection drawn (everybody knew about Disney's Lincoln then, it was talked about a lot) It is mentioned specifically in the 1967 film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President%27s_Analyst https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President%27s_Analyst where the protagonists are being lectured to by an animatronic figure and once character says "He's like Abe Lincoln" so there is some expectation at that time that people would know about him.
pests 3y ago
I think because it was close enough that Disney probably was already working on it before the book came out and the book came out without (presumably) knowing about what Disney was working on. Then you have two pop culture references to an animatronic Lincoln being released within two years of each other. That is odd. I would agree with you if the book had been out longer before Disney immitated it.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  Now that I think of it, it was close to the 100th anniversary of the civil war and not long after Lincoln’s death so Lincoln must have been on people’s minds. The civil rights movement would be another reason people would be thinking about Lincoln’s legacy too.

> (Oddly, ... Why would that be odd? It's very common for speculative fiction to have a version of something before it is realized in the "real world".

by ska 3y ago

> (Oddly, ... Why would that be odd? It's very common for speculative fiction to have a version of something before it is realized in the "real world".

burnished 3y ago

Roughly two years makes it unlikely (but not impossible) for the book to have influenced the project.

PaulHoule 3y ago
The book had not even been published at the time. Dick wrote it in 1962, it was serialized in 1969 and published in book form in 1972 so it could not have influenced Disney at all. I would though think that this Star Trek episode must have been informed by Disney's Lincoln https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Curtain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Savage_Curtain even if there is no explict connection drawn (everybody knew about Disney's Lincoln then, it was talked about a lot) It is mentioned specifically in the 1967 film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President%27s_Analyst https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President%27s_Analyst where the protagonists are being lectured to by an animatronic figure and once character says "He's like Abe Lincoln" so there is some expectation at that time that people would know about him.

pests 3y ago

I think because it was close enough that Disney probably was already working on it before the book came out and the book came out without (presumably) knowing about what Disney was working on. Then you have two pop culture references to an animatronic Lincoln being released within two years of each other. That is odd. I would agree with you if the book had been out longer before Disney immitated it.

PaulHoule 3y ago
Now that I think of it, it was close to the 100th anniversary of the civil war and not long after Lincoln’s death so Lincoln must have been on people’s minds. The civil rights movement would be another reason people would be thinking about Lincoln’s legacy too.