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This. More so for loud motorcycles, since cops tend to also own them.
by lokar 3y ago
This. More so for loud motorcycles, since cops tend to also own them.
- dumbfounder 3y agoI am in favor of louder pipes for motorcycles for safety reasons. But there is such a thing as too loud.
- BobaFloutist 3y agoWhich is the same reason every biker with loud pipes wears a full high-vis outfit. Or maybe they're just assholes.
- dumbfounder 3y agoMost of them are assholes, but that doesn’t mean it’s not safer to be louder.
- rrix2 3y agosafer for whom? My windows only rattle after the motorcycle has driven past, they don't project the noise ahead of you nearly as much as you think they do.
- dumbfounder 3y agoIf you are riding on the highway going the same speed as other cars, it is often hard for them to see you, but if they can hear you they know you are there. It isn’t about driving past.
- genter 3y agoSo should every pedestrian have a blazing siren on their head?
- charcircuit 3y agoPedestrians should not be on the road.
- freeone3000 3y agoNo, cars should not be on the road.
- charcircuit 3y agoRoads were built for cars.
- rrix2 3y agoThat's not actually the case in many places in the US, they were forcibly taken for cars in the same way electric streetcar systems were taken from us: > Before the American city could be physically reconstructed to accommodate automobiles, its streets had to be socially reconstructed as places where cars belong [..] Until then, streets were regarded as public spaces, where practices that endangered or obstructed others (including pedestrians) were disreputable. Motorists’ claim to street space was therefore fragile, subject to restrictions that threatened to negate the advantages of car ownership. https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/ https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/
- charcircuit 3y agoComing up with a fact that roads existed in the ancient times is not a gotcha. Most of the roads today did not exist back then. 99% of the roads I have driven on did not exist before cars.
- genter 3y agoCrosswalks
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- rando_dfad 3y agonot sure the safety argument has factual support; the sound would need to project forward from the motorcycle, wouldn't it?
- fsckboy 3y agohmmm, if I have to hear the noise, I would like a requirement that it blare forward! (so I can step into the crosswalk)
- mikestew 3y agoIf noise made your bike safer, you’d get an insurance discount. People say such things so that they don’t come off as sociopathic, not because it is true. Don’t parrot them.
- wutwutwat 3y agoThis logic is absurd. Cops are hands off with bikers not because they own bikes. Extrapolating your logic one could say: Cops don’t ticket cars because they also own a car Cops don’t stop people with guns because they also own guns Cops don’t go after bikers because they factor in if the offense is worth the risk, to both themselves and the public. There’s also a whole thing with outlaw motorcycle gangs that plays into it. Most non entry level bikes can out maneuver and outrun cop cars with ease, yes, even those slow looking Harley’s. Starting a chase over loud pipes would put a lot of innocent people at risk and for what? It isn’t worth it and it’s safe to say if the biker is running modified pipes they are not on an entry level bike. Story: a buddy of mine had a gsxr 1000 and would purposely screw with cops on the freeway and as soon as they’d light up he’d be gone and doing 200mph within a few seconds, fitting between cars easily. Within 30-60 seconds a bike can be damn near a mile away from a cop car. Radioing ahead won’t help if you don’t know where they went and they were never running a plate to run… most cops know it’s pointless to chase and often immediately call it off. Public safety is more important. Those types of bikers have a way of making the issue go away all on their own eventually. You can’t temp fate that much and not eventually meet yours.
- sib 3y agoGrappling hook through the front wheel fixes that right away...
- wutwutwat 3y agoSo we should kill people for loud exhausts? What about the innocent bystander the bike turns into jelly when it is catapulted into the air and lands on them? That energy has to go somewhere…
- pixl97 3y agoYa know, part of the reason cops should enforce the laws on the books is to keep people from going all Batman when they get tired of lawlessness.
- alexfoo 3y agoIt's just the odd love of the Harley or similar. I got pulled over for noise (in the UK) as my ZX6-R had a hole in the downpipes and it was obviously a bit too noisy. I was trying my best to keep the noise down and (genuinely, provably) on my way to drop the bike off to have it repaired. The Cop that pulled me over was happy to chat about it when I explained that it was on its way to get fixed he let me off. Then a Harley that was twice as loud went past and the cop says "Cor, doesn't that sound lovely!" I asked him if he was going to pull it over for being louder than mine and he suddenly got very grumpy with me again. I didn't push any further as I didn't want to end up with a fine. What's the old line? "Harley's are probably the most efficient machine to turn gasoline into noise without that pesky by-product of horsepower."