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All the Google accounts I had to use for work eventually required a phone number.

latchkey 3y ago
Google Workspace is different than a private account, which is what we are talking about here. With Google Workspace an admin can reset / disable your 2FA, so that part is out of your hands anyway. Finally, I don't see anything in Google Workspace that requires a phone number. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there.
- Macha 3y ago
  If google thinks your login is suspicious, it will look for 2FA. If you don't have a phone number tied to that account at that time, it will insist you add one. Discord does the same.
  - latchkey 3y ago
    That is not true. There is no requirement for a phone number.
    - Macha 3y ago
      https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/zegzh6/to_help_keep_your_account_safe_google_wants_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/zegzh6/to_help_keep_... I'm not the only one to have encountered this
      - latchkey 3y ago
        Again, that's not a requirement for a phone number. That's asking a user to verify themselves with a provided number. Likely because the user doesn't have anything else set up for 2FA.
        Macha 3y ago
        This is not true. It will ask for a provided number if you've already provided one, but if you've never provided one, it'll ask for any number and treat that as the provided number for future reference.
        latchkey 3y ago
        > This is not true. What is not true? > if you've never provided one I started this thread off with don't provide a number. Again, set up a alternate 2FA with them and you won't have to deal with a phone number at all. > and treat that as the provided number for future reference Even if they did add it in, you could remove it later.
        Macha 3y ago
        > What is not true? The claim that google will never insist you set up 2FA by providing them a phone number if their ML algorithms decide your log in is suspicious. Based on my own experiences with a little used google account and finding the messages of other users who have encountered the same error. What is your basis for claiming that my position is untrue?
        latchkey 3y ago
        > The claim that google will never insist you set up 2FA by providing them a phone number if their ML algorithms decide your log in is suspicious. 1) that's not what I said. 2) that flow you describe isn't asking you to set up SMS 2FA. It is asking you to verify an account with SMS. Likely because there is no other way for them to verify your account. > Based on my own experiences with a little used google account and finding the messages of other users who have encountered the same error. The number of people who've reported that error is super small. Even the link you provided is 10 months old. This must be related to an edge case of not having another 2FA set up. > What is your basis for claiming that my position is untrue? You said that it insists you add a number. I don't believe that is true. The example you provided does not show that is true.

Google Workspace is different than a private account, which is what we are talking about here. With Google Workspace an admin can reset / disable your 2FA, so that part is out of your hands anyway. Finally, I don't see anything in Google Workspace that requires a phone number. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there.

Macha 3y ago
If google thinks your login is suspicious, it will look for 2FA. If you don't have a phone number tied to that account at that time, it will insist you add one. Discord does the same.
- latchkey 3y ago
  That is not true. There is no requirement for a phone number.
  - Macha 3y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/zegzh6/to_help_keep_your_account_safe_google_wants_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/zegzh6/to_help_keep_... I'm not the only one to have encountered this
    - latchkey 3y ago
      Again, that's not a requirement for a phone number. That's asking a user to verify themselves with a provided number. Likely because the user doesn't have anything else set up for 2FA.
      - Macha 3y ago
        This is not true. It will ask for a provided number if you've already provided one, but if you've never provided one, it'll ask for any number and treat that as the provided number for future reference.
        latchkey 3y ago
        > This is not true. What is not true? > if you've never provided one I started this thread off with don't provide a number. Again, set up a alternate 2FA with them and you won't have to deal with a phone number at all. > and treat that as the provided number for future reference Even if they did add it in, you could remove it later.
        Macha 3y ago
        > What is not true? The claim that google will never insist you set up 2FA by providing them a phone number if their ML algorithms decide your log in is suspicious. Based on my own experiences with a little used google account and finding the messages of other users who have encountered the same error. What is your basis for claiming that my position is untrue?
        latchkey 3y ago
        > The claim that google will never insist you set up 2FA by providing them a phone number if their ML algorithms decide your log in is suspicious. 1) that's not what I said. 2) that flow you describe isn't asking you to set up SMS 2FA. It is asking you to verify an account with SMS. Likely because there is no other way for them to verify your account. > Based on my own experiences with a little used google account and finding the messages of other users who have encountered the same error. The number of people who've reported that error is super small. Even the link you provided is 10 months old. This must be related to an edge case of not having another 2FA set up. > What is your basis for claiming that my position is untrue? You said that it insists you add a number. I don't believe that is true. The example you provided does not show that is true.