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I remember him being very pro Windows. If so then this is a welcome change of spirit. I hope he is daily driving a Linux system at home and I hope everyone else

I remember him being very pro Windows. If so then this is a welcome change of spirit. I hope he is daily driving a Linux system at home and I hope everyone else here does as well.

archontes 3y ago
Now is the time to daily drive linux with a Windows VM for the few moments it's needed.
cmiller1 3y ago
More so than just using closed source software, since Bill Gates' Open Letter To Hobbyists in 1976 Microsoft has been the biggest opponent to the sharing of software in the world. If you care about open source do not give them a dime.
tredre3 3y ago
He was very pro Windows because Windows' development tools are simply much better (yeah yeah I know your pimped emacs with a stack of 25 scripts/plugins to interface with gdb is so much more productive than Visual Studio's debugger, bravo...). It wasn't the sort of anti-linux sentiment that you're implying.
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  Also, he was a game developer - which is heavily lopsided towards Windows. Shocking, I know.
- cherryteastain 3y ago
  Dependency management for any C/C++ project in Windows sucks compared to Linux. If you really want a Microsoft IDE, VS Code runs natively on Linux and has all the debugging capabilities of VS.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  I would say the pimped out emacs is probably better than everything _except_ visual studio. VS is hands down the best IDE in the world, bar none. And I say this as someone who runs linux on everything except my gaming pc and my work laptop. Once you step outside of visual studio though ... nothing compares with those setups (I use vim, but the sentiment is the same). It's because you have easy access to the entire OS, not anything specific to vim/emacs (although there's a lot of great things to say about them too).
  - plorkyeran 3y ago
    Yeah, I don't use Visual Studio very often any more because it's not enough better than the alternatives to make up for being Windows-only, but I do quite regularly miss it.
  - leosanchez 3y ago
    Can you tell what do you use Visual Studio for ? I use it for .NET development but I don't think it is better than Rider.
    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      these days, .net/asp.net core mostly, but I've been using the IDE's since before they were combined (Visual C++, etc). I definitely think it's better. Often rider lags behind understanding newer C# languages and .net features and the debugger is slower to launch in rider (rider in general is slower than VS in my experience). I also find rider slower in general and I think features rider has are mis-features. If you're coming from a java background with IntelliJ experience then rider will probably feel more comfortable in terms of UI philosophies, keybindings, etc, and I'm not trying to discount comfort, but even technically I don't think rider can touch VS. And I'm not discounting rider, I'm saying VS really is that good. It's not perfect by any means, but even on technical merit alone I think rider loses. And I have a jetbrains "all inclusive" license, I'm a huge fan of their tools. I just don't think rider is as good as VS. If VS were ever ported to linux I'd stop using Rider alltogether. Although I will admit, I can't like DataGrip and I've really tried. Just something about it doesn't sit well with my sensibilities, I think because it tries to be jack of all things data wise and it loses something as a result.

I remember him being very pro Windows. If so then this is a welcome change of spirit. I hope he is daily driving a Linux system at home and I hope everyone else here does as well.

archontes 3y ago

Now is the time to daily drive linux with a Windows VM for the few moments it's needed.

cmiller1 3y ago

More so than just using closed source software, since Bill Gates' Open Letter To Hobbyists in 1976 Microsoft has been the biggest opponent to the sharing of software in the world. If you care about open source do not give them a dime.

tredre3 3y ago

He was very pro Windows because Windows' development tools are simply much better (yeah yeah I know your pimped emacs with a stack of 25 scripts/plugins to interface with gdb is so much more productive than Visual Studio's debugger, bravo...). It wasn't the sort of anti-linux sentiment that you're implying.

renegade-otter 3y ago
Also, he was a game developer - which is heavily lopsided towards Windows. Shocking, I know.
cherryteastain 3y ago
Dependency management for any C/C++ project in Windows sucks compared to Linux. If you really want a Microsoft IDE, VS Code runs natively on Linux and has all the debugging capabilities of VS.
PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
I would say the pimped out emacs is probably better than everything _except_ visual studio. VS is hands down the best IDE in the world, bar none. And I say this as someone who runs linux on everything except my gaming pc and my work laptop. Once you step outside of visual studio though ... nothing compares with those setups (I use vim, but the sentiment is the same). It's because you have easy access to the entire OS, not anything specific to vim/emacs (although there's a lot of great things to say about them too).
- plorkyeran 3y ago
  Yeah, I don't use Visual Studio very often any more because it's not enough better than the alternatives to make up for being Windows-only, but I do quite regularly miss it.
- leosanchez 3y ago
  Can you tell what do you use Visual Studio for ? I use it for .NET development but I don't think it is better than Rider.
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    these days, .net/asp.net core mostly, but I've been using the IDE's since before they were combined (Visual C++, etc). I definitely think it's better. Often rider lags behind understanding newer C# languages and .net features and the debugger is slower to launch in rider (rider in general is slower than VS in my experience). I also find rider slower in general and I think features rider has are mis-features. If you're coming from a java background with IntelliJ experience then rider will probably feel more comfortable in terms of UI philosophies, keybindings, etc, and I'm not trying to discount comfort, but even technically I don't think rider can touch VS. And I'm not discounting rider, I'm saying VS really is that good. It's not perfect by any means, but even on technical merit alone I think rider loses. And I have a jetbrains "all inclusive" license, I'm a huge fan of their tools. I just don't think rider is as good as VS. If VS were ever ported to linux I'd stop using Rider alltogether. Although I will admit, I can't like DataGrip and I've really tried. Just something about it doesn't sit well with my sensibilities, I think because it tries to be jack of all things data wise and it loses something as a result.