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> No one will want to put a new connector in phones, because they'd need usb c too anyways. This is why the USB Implimentation Forum exists. If you want to put

> No one will want to put a new connector in phones, because they'd need usb c too anyways. This is why the USB Implimentation Forum exists. If you want to put a new connector in phones, do it; just do it through the proper, standardized and official channels. If every manufacturer had their own competing charging standard, we would be back to square 1 with 15 different ways to route serial data and 15w of juice. As companies like Apple have so gratefully demonstrated, most companies tend to invent those chargers for licensing royalties rather than a willingness to push the envelope on charging or data transfer technology.

xvector 3y ago
The problem is that nobody will be willing to invest in the research and development needed to do so. It's a chicken and an egg problem.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Good. I don't want a company to create and monopolize some arbitrary improvement over the current technology. I want those developments to be forced into standardization to compete, and offer backwards-compatibility just like USB does. And plus... it's a serial cable. The demand for "research and development" has remained the same since they figured out how to flatten the type B connector. You can't fool anybody by releasing a 'new and improved' cable or connector that is just the same serial bus with proprietary mumbo-jumbo on top.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    > Good. I don't want a company to create and monopolize some arbitrary improvement over the current technology. And this sums up the issue perfectly. “I don’t want improvements. I want design by committee least common denominator”
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      When it comes to charging and serial standards which have not meaningfully evolved in over a decade... yeah. It would be kinda nice to trade marginal improvement for compatibility and stability. The USB-C connector is not limiting smartphone data or charging speeds anyways.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        And no one will ever need more than 640K of memory…
        smoldesu 3y ago
        I'm happy to wait for the first iPhone that needs to exceed 60w of charging and Thunderbolt 4 speeds.

xvector 3y ago

The problem is that nobody will be willing to invest in the research and development needed to do so. It's a chicken and an egg problem.

smoldesu 3y ago
Good. I don't want a company to create and monopolize some arbitrary improvement over the current technology. I want those developments to be forced into standardization to compete, and offer backwards-compatibility just like USB does. And plus... it's a serial cable. The demand for "research and development" has remained the same since they figured out how to flatten the type B connector. You can't fool anybody by releasing a 'new and improved' cable or connector that is just the same serial bus with proprietary mumbo-jumbo on top.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  > Good. I don't want a company to create and monopolize some arbitrary improvement over the current technology. And this sums up the issue perfectly. “I don’t want improvements. I want design by committee least common denominator”
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    When it comes to charging and serial standards which have not meaningfully evolved in over a decade... yeah. It would be kinda nice to trade marginal improvement for compatibility and stability. The USB-C connector is not limiting smartphone data or charging speeds anyways.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      And no one will ever need more than 640K of memory…
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        I'm happy to wait for the first iPhone that needs to exceed 60w of charging and Thunderbolt 4 speeds.