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> You don’t run CUDA on any non Nvidia hardware. CUDA drivers exist for pretty much every platform. They don't work without an Nvidia GPU, but in-theory nothin

> You don’t run CUDA on any non Nvidia hardware. CUDA drivers exist for pretty much every platform. They don't work without an Nvidia GPU, but in-theory nothing stops you from running CUDA code on iPhone besides Apple. > Are you saying that their no competitors on iOS None with the same competitive advantage as Apple. Whether that is fair or not seems to be up to individual markets.

scarface_74 3y ago
So exactly how is Apple stopping you from implementing the entire CUDA API as a library to include within your application noting that no one has done it on non Nvidia hardware? So are you saying that - Apple Music is more popular on iOS than Spotify? - The iWork’s suite is more popular than MSOffice or GSuite? - AppleTV is more popular than Netflix? - Apple Books is more popular than Kindle?
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > So exactly how is Apple stopping you from implementing the entire CUDA API Well, neither the hardware or software supports PCI access, so... connectivity would be a start. It's about time iPhone supported Thunderbolt anyways. > So are you saying that {Apple Music is more popular on iOS than Spotify?, ...} I'm saying that Apple exerts a literal anticompetitive advantage by choosing their own margins (among many other things). Nothing about legislation like the Digital Market Act accuses Apple of monopoly. It designates them as a Gatekeeper (a position Apple chose) and holds them subject to additional guidelines. That is the cost of owning a userbase in Europe, now.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Yes it should support thunderbolt like all of the Android manufacturers. How is Apple “choosing their own margins?” None of the example I listed pay Apple one penny for in app purchases. I guess since the tech industry in Europe can’t export anything worthwhile, passing legislation is the best they have.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      > I guess since the tech industry in Europe can’t export anything worthwhile Let's see! I, for one, would be very excited to watch Apple admit that the European audience isn't worth their while. After all, Apple acquires their companies year[0] after year[1] after year[2] after year[3] after year[4] after year[5] after year[6] after year[7] after year[8] after year[9] after year[10] after year[11] after year[12] after year[13]. Well, maybe Europe matters to Apple... b-but not much! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIS_Records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIS_Records [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronshevlin/2022/03/27/why-apple-acquired-a-uk-based-open-banking-fintech/?sh=220bb0c910e7 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronshevlin/2022/03/27/why-apple... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primephonic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primephonic [3] https://www.macrumors.com/2020/04/03/apple-acquires-ai-startup-voysis/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/04/03/apple-acquires-ai-start... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_XMM_modems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_XMM_modems [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_Semiconductor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_Semiconductor [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beddit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beddit [7] https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-acquired-finnish-company-indoor-io-help-it-map-indoor-spaces-2016-12?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-acquired-finnish-compa... [8] https://techcrunch.com/2015/11/24/apple-faceshift/ https://techcrunch.com/2015/11/24/apple-faceshift/ [9] https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-apple-buys-digital-magazine-platform-prss https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-apple-buys-digital-magazin... [10] https://techcrunch.com/2013/08/28/apple-reportedly-acquires-swedish-firm-algotrim-a-company-that-does-mobile-media-and-data-compression/ https://techcrunch.com/2013/08/28/apple-reportedly-acquires-... [11] https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/30/apple-acquiring-italian-digital-audio-editing-software-firm-redmatica/ https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/30/apple-acquiring-italian... [12] https://venturebeat.com/mobile/apple-buys-c3-technologies-one-more-cut-into-google-maps-yoke/ https://venturebeat.com/mobile/apple-buys-c3-technologies-on... [13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Rose_(facial_recognition) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Rose_(facial_recognition...
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        So none of them could make it on their own as an ongoing concern…

scarface_74 3y ago

So exactly how is Apple stopping you from implementing the entire CUDA API as a library to include within your application noting that no one has done it on non Nvidia hardware? So are you saying that - Apple Music is more popular on iOS than Spotify? - The iWork’s suite is more popular than MSOffice or GSuite? - AppleTV is more popular than Netflix? - Apple Books is more popular than Kindle?

smoldesu 3y ago
> So exactly how is Apple stopping you from implementing the entire CUDA API Well, neither the hardware or software supports PCI access, so... connectivity would be a start. It's about time iPhone supported Thunderbolt anyways. > So are you saying that {Apple Music is more popular on iOS than Spotify?, ...} I'm saying that Apple exerts a literal anticompetitive advantage by choosing their own margins (among many other things). Nothing about legislation like the Digital Market Act accuses Apple of monopoly. It designates them as a Gatekeeper (a position Apple chose) and holds them subject to additional guidelines. That is the cost of owning a userbase in Europe, now.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Yes it should support thunderbolt like all of the Android manufacturers. How is Apple “choosing their own margins?” None of the example I listed pay Apple one penny for in app purchases. I guess since the tech industry in Europe can’t export anything worthwhile, passing legislation is the best they have.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    > I guess since the tech industry in Europe can’t export anything worthwhile Let's see! I, for one, would be very excited to watch Apple admit that the European audience isn't worth their while. After all, Apple acquires their companies year[0] after year[1] after year[2] after year[3] after year[4] after year[5] after year[6] after year[7] after year[8] after year[9] after year[10] after year[11] after year[12] after year[13]. Well, maybe Europe matters to Apple... b-but not much! [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIS_Records https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIS_Records [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronshevlin/2022/03/27/why-apple-acquired-a-uk-based-open-banking-fintech/?sh=220bb0c910e7 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronshevlin/2022/03/27/why-apple... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primephonic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primephonic [3] https://www.macrumors.com/2020/04/03/apple-acquires-ai-startup-voysis/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/04/03/apple-acquires-ai-start... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_XMM_modems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_XMM_modems [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_Semiconductor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_Semiconductor [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beddit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beddit [7] https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-acquired-finnish-company-indoor-io-help-it-map-indoor-spaces-2016-12?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-acquired-finnish-compa... [8] https://techcrunch.com/2015/11/24/apple-faceshift/ https://techcrunch.com/2015/11/24/apple-faceshift/ [9] https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-apple-buys-digital-magazine-platform-prss https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-apple-buys-digital-magazin... [10] https://techcrunch.com/2013/08/28/apple-reportedly-acquires-swedish-firm-algotrim-a-company-that-does-mobile-media-and-data-compression/ https://techcrunch.com/2013/08/28/apple-reportedly-acquires-... [11] https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/30/apple-acquiring-italian-digital-audio-editing-software-firm-redmatica/ https://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/30/apple-acquiring-italian... [12] https://venturebeat.com/mobile/apple-buys-c3-technologies-one-more-cut-into-google-maps-yoke/ https://venturebeat.com/mobile/apple-buys-c3-technologies-on... [13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Rose_(facial_recognition) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Rose_(facial_recognition...
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      So none of them could make it on their own as an ongoing concern…