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Seems like attacking Google would be a bad target for street cred as compared to govt websites.

fnordpiglet 3y ago
Surely bringing down Google is a bigger technical achievement than some random government website maintained by someone who stumbled into their job after 20 years doing mid level government organizational work.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  Yes, but they are clearly going to fail to bring down Google.
  - usefulcat 3y ago
    Right, so clearly the ability to bring down Google is not the point.
  - jedberg 3y ago
    It doesn't matter if you fail. The cred comes from how much bandwidth and resources you can soak up.
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    Well - they clearly were successful enough to get a thread on hacker news……
  - rvba 3y ago
    Aim high and go out with a bang choom
- ortusdux 3y ago
  Heck, I'd imagine that making headlines and having Google benchmark your attack would bring some amazing street cred.
  - antonjs 3y ago
    Darknet guerilla marketing. Definitely seems to have worked. Now we need the SEO content side: "How we hit Google with 398M RPS". "... you can do this manually, but our product makes it as easy as a sign up and API call. Talk to us about pricing. [Python API example].
jedberg 3y ago
Nah it's even better because they're considered capable defenders so it's harder. What I'm not sure of is why Google published this. I can't figure out what their strategy is here. We never published about the attacks we absorbed because we didn't want them to know our capabilities. Unless this is marketing for Google Cloud?
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  This is certainly marketing. If they sell DDOS protection, then announcing that they stopped the largest attack ever is an ad.
  - epalm 3y ago
    Maybe Google is responsible for the attack, to be able to publish this blog post! <\tinfoil-hat>
    - ignoramous 3y ago
      If Google truly went rouge, they could turn all those Chrome installs and Android devices into one gargantuan botnet.
      - FartyMcFarter 3y ago
        Google is already partly rouge, at least in their logo.
  - frostiness 3y ago
    Sounds like a symbiotic relationship to me. The attackers get to advertise their capability for pulling off attacks, and Google gets to advertise their ability to stop them.
    - pixl97 3y ago
      Almost all (but not all) of these attacks are based on some kind of problem that leads to amplification. Advertizing that people should fix these points of exploit help everyone on the internet.
aa_is_op 3y ago
They're not attacking Google, per se. Just the Google Cloud platform that hosts govt sites, Discord channels, gaming servers, etc.

Surely bringing down Google is a bigger technical achievement than some random government website maintained by someone who stumbled into their job after 20 years doing mid level government organizational work.

whimsicalism 3y ago
Yes, but they are clearly going to fail to bring down Google.
- usefulcat 3y ago
  Right, so clearly the ability to bring down Google is not the point.
- jedberg 3y ago
  It doesn't matter if you fail. The cred comes from how much bandwidth and resources you can soak up.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  Well - they clearly were successful enough to get a thread on hacker news……
- rvba 3y ago
  Aim high and go out with a bang choom
ortusdux 3y ago
Heck, I'd imagine that making headlines and having Google benchmark your attack would bring some amazing street cred.
- antonjs 3y ago
  Darknet guerilla marketing. Definitely seems to have worked. Now we need the SEO content side: "How we hit Google with 398M RPS". "... you can do this manually, but our product makes it as easy as a sign up and API call. Talk to us about pricing. [Python API example].

jedberg 3y ago

Nah it's even better because they're considered capable defenders so it's harder. What I'm not sure of is why Google published this. I can't figure out what their strategy is here. We never published about the attacks we absorbed because we didn't want them to know our capabilities. Unless this is marketing for Google Cloud?

vineyardmike 3y ago
This is certainly marketing. If they sell DDOS protection, then announcing that they stopped the largest attack ever is an ad.
- epalm 3y ago
  Maybe Google is responsible for the attack, to be able to publish this blog post! <\tinfoil-hat>
  - ignoramous 3y ago
    If Google truly went rouge, they could turn all those Chrome installs and Android devices into one gargantuan botnet.
    - FartyMcFarter 3y ago
      Google is already partly rouge, at least in their logo.
- frostiness 3y ago
  Sounds like a symbiotic relationship to me. The attackers get to advertise their capability for pulling off attacks, and Google gets to advertise their ability to stop them.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    Almost all (but not all) of these attacks are based on some kind of problem that leads to amplification. Advertizing that people should fix these points of exploit help everyone on the internet.

aa_is_op 3y ago

They're not attacking Google, per se. Just the Google Cloud platform that hosts govt sites, Discord channels, gaming servers, etc.