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Stating a opinion and calling out stupid comments (that later got edited to make them less stupid) is not "flamebait". How about you stop shadow-banning people?

Stating a opinion and calling out stupid comments (that later got edited to make them less stupid) is not "flamebait". How about you stop shadow-banning people? If anything the OP of this thread was "unsubstantive" and "flamebait". And if "Most stories about politics ... are probably off-topic" WTF is this bullshit? What is "probably". Who decides what "Political ... or other stories are not for this site and what are? This is so typical tech vague BS. There are political stories that have absolutely nothing to do with tech posted here on a daily basis, nobody respects or understands this stupid guideline. They all just tell themselves "my political story is totally not off-topic for HN" because the guidelines are so vague.

brigandish 3y ago
You've got a point because that comment was edited (I know, not just because of the note the OP has used but because I also replied to it prior to the edit). However, you're not going to get far if you put it like that. My advice, as a former shadowbanned hothead, would be to give dang an email and apologise, and point out calmly that you were responding to a comment that was later edited, and that'll you'll try to be less openly aggressive when posting in future. Dang probably appreciates nice emails like that. Snark is supposedly discouraged on HN but I guess it's hard to police, you might move on to that ;-)
dang 3y ago
You might want to familiarize yourself with how we think about these things—for example the question of how to moderate political stories on HN. There are lots of past explanations on that at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so.... These two links are ok starting points: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 (Nov 2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 (April 2020) This site has a 15-year history with these questions. You're absolutely welcome to disagree with how we do things but it would be good to know what the approach actually is before agreeing or disagreeing with it. It's based on some pretty clear principles. If you can figure out a better way to moderate HN with respect to such questions—that is, a way which does a better job of following those principles—I'd love to hear about it.

brigandish 3y ago

You've got a point because that comment was edited (I know, not just because of the note the OP has used but because I also replied to it prior to the edit). However, you're not going to get far if you put it like that. My advice, as a former shadowbanned hothead, would be to give dang an email and apologise, and point out calmly that you were responding to a comment that was later edited, and that'll you'll try to be less openly aggressive when posting in future. Dang probably appreciates nice emails like that. Snark is supposedly discouraged on HN but I guess it's hard to police, you might move on to that ;-)

dang 3y ago

You might want to familiarize yourself with how we think about these things—for example the question of how to moderate political stories on HN. There are lots of past explanations on that at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so.... These two links are ok starting points: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 (Nov 2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 (April 2020) This site has a 15-year history with these questions. You're absolutely welcome to disagree with how we do things but it would be good to know what the approach actually is before agreeing or disagreeing with it. It's based on some pretty clear principles. If you can figure out a better way to moderate HN with respect to such questions—that is, a way which does a better job of following those principles—I'd love to hear about it.