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I don't really buy the meaningful support thing yet. I would say a small minority of vocal people that have zero chance of winning a secession referendum at thi

I don't really buy the meaningful support thing yet. I would say a small minority of vocal people that have zero chance of winning a secession referendum at this time. If the east keeps taking 20+ billion a year in taxes for ~5 billion in services provided while simultaneously blocking resource development and doing other obviously unjust things like including resource revenue in Alberta's transfer payment calculation and not including resource revenue from hydro in Quebec's then maybe in 20-30 years they will have a slim chance. I think they know this too because they are pushing for disaggregation of services from Ottawa right now and actually have a chance of that because the cost of doing that is minimal and it will make their ultimate goal of leaving much easier if we have provincial pensions, police force, tax collection, etc. already in place.

TMWNN 3y ago
>I think they know this too because they are pushing for disaggregation of services from Ottawa right now and actually have a chance of that because the cost of doing that is minimal and it will make their ultimate goal of leaving much easier if we have provincial pensions, police force, tax collection, etc. already in place. Oh, sure, the meltdown on Reddit over the plans to establish Alberta's own pension is an indication of just how worried the opponents are. Since they can't deny Quebec's precedent here, they're freaking out over how it would destroy the CPP, while simultaneously avoiding the obvious implication that claiming such would reinforce Alberta's complaints about being drained to support the rest of the country. I haven't seen similar meltdowns about reestablishing APP but I probably just haven't looked hard enough. My larger point is that, as I said, secession is legal in Canada. People are ignorant of/in denial over the full ramifications of Re Secession. <https://np.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/tkg5gf/who_has_more_autonomy_canadian_provinces_american/i1s9jgh/?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/tkg5gf/who_has_...>
- snapplebobapple 3y ago
  I wasn't disagreeing with the larger point, I was nitpicking the details;)

TMWNN 3y ago

>I think they know this too because they are pushing for disaggregation of services from Ottawa right now and actually have a chance of that because the cost of doing that is minimal and it will make their ultimate goal of leaving much easier if we have provincial pensions, police force, tax collection, etc. already in place. Oh, sure, the meltdown on Reddit over the plans to establish Alberta's own pension is an indication of just how worried the opponents are. Since they can't deny Quebec's precedent here, they're freaking out over how it would destroy the CPP, while simultaneously avoiding the obvious implication that claiming such would reinforce Alberta's complaints about being drained to support the rest of the country. I haven't seen similar meltdowns about reestablishing APP but I probably just haven't looked hard enough. My larger point is that, as I said, secession is legal in Canada. People are ignorant of/in denial over the full ramifications of Re Secession. <https://np.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/tkg5gf/who_has_more_autonomy_canadian_provinces_american/i1s9jgh/?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/tkg5gf/who_has_...>

snapplebobapple 3y ago
I wasn't disagreeing with the larger point, I was nitpicking the details;)