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Movie industry is still massively out of touch. In order to combat piracy, you need to out innovate them in terms of convenience and features. Music piracy is

by htrp 3y ago

Movie industry is still massively out of touch. In order to combat piracy, you need to out innovate them in terms of convenience and features. Music piracy is almost a non-issue because it is way more convenient to get music via Spotify and streaming.

Melting_Harps 3y ago
> In order to combat piracy, you need to out innovate them in terms of convenience and features. To be entirely fair, I think we ahvae reached a parody with Hollywood and Streaming services in terms of content: sure, some comic book movies requires 500 million to make and require studios to pump things up and a bloated marketing tour, but A26 is a perfect example of something being made for low budget, word to mouth and often quickly on streaming services that rivals most stuff in the theaters. After this year, I've been to the movies more times since I was a teenager, I really don't feel like I missed much during that time: I'm still incredibly out of touch with what comes out and other than Oppenheimer I don't think I watched anything that had much of a budget. As for piracy, it'll never go away, some of us just refuse to comply with these norms and find ways around geo-restrictions and IP bans half the fun, hence why these communities still thrive before Netflix started to self-canobolize itself. PS: Last season of Black Mirror made me regret being in the loop, after COVID there was so much more to work with than it's entire existence, but this was perhaps the sign that Charlie Brooker needs to reach for fan-art scripts and should help get them green-lit.
- andelink 3y ago
  > A26 Do you mean A24?
  - Melting_Harps 3y ago
    Err, yeah...
postexitus 3y ago
And it is only Spotify making money in that arrangement. Music industry long ago came to terms with not making money from album/song sales, but use them as promotion platforms for Live Events, Merch and whatnot. Not saying your statement about Movie industry is inaccurate - yes, one (or few) super convenient platform(s) to contain all movies to rent/buy with high quality and reliable delivery would be amazing - but one flat price for streaming everything ala Spotify is not going to work for movies.
- bitwize 3y ago
  > Music industry long ago came to terms with not making money from album/song sales, but use them as promotion platforms for Live Events, Merch and whatnot. Piracy killed the profits in record sales and created a bimodal distribution for musicians wherein you're either Taylor Swift or the equivalent, or a struggling indie.
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    > Piracy killed the profits in record sales and created a bimodal distribution for musicians wherein you're either Taylor Swift or the equivalent, or a struggling indie. Let's not pretend that record labels weren't massively warping the playing field for decades before the internet took off; or that piracy hasn't helped indie artists get discovered / blow up. There are studies on this, and the ones that weren't sponsored by record labels are pretty consistent in showing your statement to be false.
    - fractallyte 3y ago
      I'm sorry, but I don't believe that for a moment. Record labels bled musicians, sure. Piracy just all-out stole their music - I doubt you'll find any documented instance where a musician was actually paid for their music by a kind pirate. Events, festivals, concerts should not be the only way a musician should hope to recoup some of the effort they put into creating music.
      - 3y ago
chung8123 3y ago
People don't want to pay for convenience and features. Look at how many people are screaming about the price of the services out there. Streaming services provide a ton of content and it is all pretty easy to use. The problem the studios have is that people are used to below market pricing for content as a side revenue but their side revenue ate away their main stream revenue.

by htrp 3y ago

Melting_Harps 3y ago

> In order to combat piracy, you need to out innovate them in terms of convenience and features. To be entirely fair, I think we ahvae reached a parody with Hollywood and Streaming services in terms of content: sure, some comic book movies requires 500 million to make and require studios to pump things up and a bloated marketing tour, but A26 is a perfect example of something being made for low budget, word to mouth and often quickly on streaming services that rivals most stuff in the theaters. After this year, I've been to the movies more times since I was a teenager, I really don't feel like I missed much during that time: I'm still incredibly out of touch with what comes out and other than Oppenheimer I don't think I watched anything that had much of a budget. As for piracy, it'll never go away, some of us just refuse to comply with these norms and find ways around geo-restrictions and IP bans half the fun, hence why these communities still thrive before Netflix started to self-canobolize itself. PS: Last season of Black Mirror made me regret being in the loop, after COVID there was so much more to work with than it's entire existence, but this was perhaps the sign that Charlie Brooker needs to reach for fan-art scripts and should help get them green-lit.

andelink 3y ago
> A26 Do you mean A24?
- Melting_Harps 3y ago
  Err, yeah...

postexitus 3y ago

And it is only Spotify making money in that arrangement. Music industry long ago came to terms with not making money from album/song sales, but use them as promotion platforms for Live Events, Merch and whatnot. Not saying your statement about Movie industry is inaccurate - yes, one (or few) super convenient platform(s) to contain all movies to rent/buy with high quality and reliable delivery would be amazing - but one flat price for streaming everything ala Spotify is not going to work for movies.

bitwize 3y ago
> Music industry long ago came to terms with not making money from album/song sales, but use them as promotion platforms for Live Events, Merch and whatnot. Piracy killed the profits in record sales and created a bimodal distribution for musicians wherein you're either Taylor Swift or the equivalent, or a struggling indie.
- mandmandam 3y ago
  > Piracy killed the profits in record sales and created a bimodal distribution for musicians wherein you're either Taylor Swift or the equivalent, or a struggling indie. Let's not pretend that record labels weren't massively warping the playing field for decades before the internet took off; or that piracy hasn't helped indie artists get discovered / blow up. There are studies on this, and the ones that weren't sponsored by record labels are pretty consistent in showing your statement to be false.
  - fractallyte 3y ago
    I'm sorry, but I don't believe that for a moment. Record labels bled musicians, sure. Piracy just all-out stole their music - I doubt you'll find any documented instance where a musician was actually paid for their music by a kind pirate. Events, festivals, concerts should not be the only way a musician should hope to recoup some of the effort they put into creating music.
    - 3y ago

chung8123 3y ago

People don't want to pay for convenience and features. Look at how many people are screaming about the price of the services out there. Streaming services provide a ton of content and it is all pretty easy to use. The problem the studios have is that people are used to below market pricing for content as a side revenue but their side revenue ate away their main stream revenue.