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> Has any big tech reduced data collection after GDPR? Any big tech still operating in the EU did. A lot.
by makeitdouble 3y ago
> Has any big tech reduced data collection after GDPR?
Any big tech still operating in the EU did. A lot.
- YetAnotherNick 3y agoAny example or source? All the big tech is still operating in EU and I don't know of any reduction in data collection.
- howenterprisey 3y agoAre you in a position where you would know firsthand whether big tech data collection is trending up or down, or if not, could you share the research you've done to reach your conclusion? It seems plausible to me that the fines and other penalties have forced changes in how some companies operate, based on the large fines (absolute value, not % of revenue...) that have made the news in the past five-ish years.
- YetAnotherNick 3y agoWhat conclusion? As I said in my message, I don't know of any reduction in data collected. I am turning to community who might have some example if there is any instance of that.
- AnthonyMouse 3y agoTheir business model is sucking up all your data and using it to target ads. You can tell they're still doing it because they're not making any less money. No doubt it made them spend a lot of money on lawyers to figure out the best way to keep doing it, but what good is that?
- Moldoteck 3y agoWelp, considering rumors that meta is going to introduce a fee for using their apps with opt out ads in eu, maybe they really feel the effects of the law
- AnthonyMouse 3y agoOr they found a loophole because they can just make the fee large enough that almost everyone opts in to the ads.
- anticensor 3y agoThat is not a loophole, that is a business strategy, albeit a malicious one.
- makeitdouble 3y agoThere has been sweeping changes in log management, data export to outside entities, reliance on third party providers to parse that data and come up with insights etc. Pre-GDPR, you'd open your logs to any random company promising to come up with something that could remotely help your marketing department. Nowadays, you'll have to vet your partners and audit how your data is handled internally. It's hard to come up with concrete examples when it's basically every single company above a decent size, as they typically don't want to work against the law. Same for the retention period, the very type of log that you'd open for internal harvesting (you could still be collecting the info, but keep it way more confidential to the point no one outside of your SRE team has access to the totality of it) It's as if you were asking what changes the PSI and DSS compliance laws had on the card processing field.
- TrickyRick 3y agoConsidering they keep racking up fines I seriously doubt it. It's become like banking regulation, fines are just a cost of doing business and you just have to factor in the percent chance of getting caught times average size of fine vs revenue. See https://www.enforcementtracker.com https://www.enforcementtracker.com
- makeitdouble 3y agoBut banking regulation still has an effect on any entity that can't afford to be continuously fighting lawsuits and paying fines. And actual changes happens on many of these cases. An entity getting fined three of four times for different offenses doesn't mean they never fix any of the issues. An easy example could be Google, who've been a target of so many of these complaints, and made many adjustment, up to building separate data centers with separate management rules to deal with the EU situation.
- xvector 3y agoThese regulations are so overwrought, complex, and even contradictory, that it is literally impossible to comply with them fully. Hence fines.