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> Is chat control part of new legislation supposed to undermine DMa? Ursula von der Leyen has a long history of instrumenting children and CSAM to get more con
by Semaphor 3y ago
> Is chat control part of new legislation supposed to undermine DMa?
Ursula von der Leyen has a long history of instrumenting children and CSAM to get more control. She did the same in Germany, she’s an utterly despicable person.
- nceqs3 3y agoImagine thinking stopping the horrors of child sexual abuse makes you an evil person. Perhaps you are projecting.
- Semaphor 3y agoedit: Nevermind, saw what kind of comments you post, not engaging with trolls.
- dang 3y agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: it looks like you've been breaking the site guidelines quite badly on a regular basis—for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37733548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37733548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37718945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37718945 (Sept 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37100652 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37100652 (Aug 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36975625 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36975625 (Aug 2023) This kind of thing destroys what the site is for, so if it keeps up, we're going to have to ban you. If you'd please stick to the guidelines from now on, that would be good. Among other things, that means no personal attacks, putdowns, or snark.
- barbazoo 3y agoMy bet is she's ignorant and/or incompetent but not "evil" in the way you imply.
- AnthonyMouse 3y agoIt isn't rare in politics for a politician to be opportunistic rather than incompetent. If they tell you they want to invade your privacy over internet casinos and copyright infringement, you tell them to pound sand. If they claim it's to arrest pedos then you tell them to pound sand and they accuse you of being a pedo. Then you have to accuse them of being a Nazi and reasoned debate is at a close and it becomes a popularity contest, which is the only way the people with no capacity for reasoned debate can win. That seems pretty evil.
- barbazoo 3y ago> It isn't rare in politics for a politician to be opportunistic rather than incompetent. What's the opportunity here though? They're not making any friends in the tech industry so it's not to secure a job, it's not popular with a lot of people, I don't get what they're gaining here.
- Semaphor 3y agoShe’s from the conservative/center-right party, they are the biggest fans of the surveillance state (closely followed by center-left, though). Also, it has come to light that there’s a tech-connection after all, with US tech companies lobbying for their service: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...
- stephen_g 3y agoEvil might be too strong a word, but when we have seen such a pattern of behaviour, I think we're well past the point where we can assume ignorance and incompetence in the case of von der Leyen. (That's not to say she's not ignorant and incompetent in many ways, because she clearly is, but I'm talking about the root of these specific behaviours, which seems pretty clearly intentional at this point).
- anonzzzies 3y agoHanlon’s razor indeed. I believe that even some of the more historically famous evil political leaders started out that way.