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> If you don’t like ads and desire to continue using the service, it’s time to consider paying for it. Or just get better ad blockers. I think it’s a pretty f

> If you don’t like ads and desire to continue using the service, it’s time to consider paying for it. Or just get better ad blockers. I think it’s a pretty fundamental right that I choose what to do with data sent to me. Should televisions not be able to use the mute button during ads?

polishdude20 3y ago
That's exactly it. It's like a tv network disabling your mute button whenever you see a commercial. You can send me data but how I view it once it's on my network is my right. Just like mail.
- idonotknowwhy 3y ago
  Gl with that, I'd be soldering in a switch to the speaker wire if they tried that
idiotsecant 3y ago
If everyone just uses ad blockers, the system doesn't work. YouTube goes away tomorrow. If you go to a nice country park with an honor system tip jar you can say that it's your fundamental right to go anywhere that someone doesn't stop you but if everyone did that the park wouldn't have money for upkeep. At a certain point this isn't the wild West anymore, and these services need to keep the lights on. I personally feel like ads are phycological warfare and find them detestable but I also recognize that means I need to support the service somehow else or I'm a net drain on the system.
- prepend 3y ago
  A tip jar is not ads. A nice park with a tip jar might work. If it didn’t work, the park wouldnt cease to exist, but people would find a different funding model. Taxes that fund parks definitely work. Remember that public parks are a pretty recent innovation. Imaging someone saying of private gardens in 1700 “if the king didn’t pay for a park, the park would cease to exist” as a justification for an oppressive monarchy. YouTube will continue to exist without ads. Business models change. It may make less profit margin, but saying it will cease to exist is hysterical hyperbole.

polishdude20 3y ago

That's exactly it. It's like a tv network disabling your mute button whenever you see a commercial. You can send me data but how I view it once it's on my network is my right. Just like mail.

idonotknowwhy 3y ago
Gl with that, I'd be soldering in a switch to the speaker wire if they tried that

idiotsecant 3y ago

If everyone just uses ad blockers, the system doesn't work. YouTube goes away tomorrow. If you go to a nice country park with an honor system tip jar you can say that it's your fundamental right to go anywhere that someone doesn't stop you but if everyone did that the park wouldn't have money for upkeep. At a certain point this isn't the wild West anymore, and these services need to keep the lights on. I personally feel like ads are phycological warfare and find them detestable but I also recognize that means I need to support the service somehow else or I'm a net drain on the system.

prepend 3y ago
A tip jar is not ads. A nice park with a tip jar might work. If it didn’t work, the park wouldnt cease to exist, but people would find a different funding model. Taxes that fund parks definitely work. Remember that public parks are a pretty recent innovation. Imaging someone saying of private gardens in 1700 “if the king didn’t pay for a park, the park would cease to exist” as a justification for an oppressive monarchy. YouTube will continue to exist without ads. Business models change. It may make less profit margin, but saying it will cease to exist is hysterical hyperbole.