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Whilst a lovely achievement, this title definitely overstates current robot abilities. Here is some human parkour for contrast: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q

by nmca 3y ago

Whilst a lovely achievement, this title definitely overstates current robot abilities. Here is some human parkour for contrast: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqAVaQqQWQ&t=106s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqAVaQqQWQ&t=106s

lukevp 3y ago
The difference being each human has to spend thousands of hours learning that level of control over their bodies, and work hard to maintain that level of physical fitness. And if they fall off the roof, millions of dollars of potential earnings and GDP die with them. Whereas these robots are only $70k, and once one of them can do this, they all can do it. Just like with Chess and Go. It’s not impressive at first, then a couple years later, it’s better than humans could ever be, and it can be cheaply replicated ad infinitum.
- msikora 3y ago
  ^^^This
- r3trohack3r 3y ago
  $70K? The one pictured appears to be $14k https://m.unitree.com/en/a1/ https://m.unitree.com/en/a1/
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  The most impressive thing about the video is not the skill but the control of their fear.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    I think without fear, challenges to over come, ways to improve, there would be little point to living. Experience would be so bland? The feeling over fear when you want to ask someone out, then you do it and it works out, that is the spice of experience. Like wise when it doesn’t work out, it can suck but it’s also part of the spice.
  - developer93 3y ago
    Not that have experience, but I feel like that's just practice. Your subconscious needs to learn that it's not necessarily going to die when it does that, and your subconscious learns from experience, so if you did it 10 times and nothing went wrong, you'll be less scared.
    - schwartzworld 3y ago
      "just" practice
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      I experienced this with skiing, where [1] you need to look down the hill and lean forward amongst other things for best results, things your fear reflexes want to avoid at all costs at first. But with the parkour on top of city buildings that is more extreme than what they portray on rooftop chases in a Bourne Identity movie... hmm... I think that is another level. There is a good chance you will die if you do that alot over 10 years. It probably requires some letting go of ego to the point where you are happy to die early. Like the free and solo climbers. [1] Forgive me if you are a great skiier this is my dumb interpretation!
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        Skiing is a unique sport in this regard, different to snowboarding in the way one needs to stand. With Skiing, you have to make yourself quite vulnerable. It’s instinctual for us to want to close ourselves up to protect our organs when scared. But you can’t ski well or difficult terrain without opening your body up, relax your arms and expose your vulnerability. This is especially scary at first when tree skiing. When you do relax it’s amazing. I think this is why some like snowboarding more. You’re facing sideways and you feel less exposed. You can get away with being closed up a little more and while it’s bad form, you never really have to snap out of it the way way you do on Skis.
- machiaweliczny 3y ago
  I think in humans it will be possible Matrix style as well
  - inawarminister 3y ago
    only if we can crack transferrable skill-memories. I think the current thinking is that each human have different neuron nets patterns though mostly in the same general regions
- GraceCat123 3y ago
  Yes, that's very true. Success for one robot means success for a whole bunch of robots. However, success for one Olympic athlete does not mean everyone can achieve the same level. That's the main difference.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    I think the main difference is these robots aren’t individuals like us. They don’t and won’t have unique experience. They are essentially one “organism”. They are effectively the same height, same weight, same battery life, same way of processing information, same capabilities. There is zero uniqueness. Like a single machine with a thousand eyes and arms. If they develop uniqueness it would get wild, like the movie rogue one… If a robot is damaged it would be interesting though. Would it adapt ? If it adapts would it be part of the same fleet? Could it receive the same “updates”, or would it be an individual? It would the able to do certain things others bots of the same model could do…
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      * not be able
chadash 3y ago
I wouldn't say I'm particularly afraid of heights, yet my heart pounded while watching this.
raincole 3y ago
I got the opposite conclusion from watching this video. I feel the way the robots do it is similar to humans. Considering that's all emergency behaviours (not trained with animals' or humans' motion data) I believe that robots will exceed humans by far in few years.
csomar 3y ago
I think extreme refers to current robot's abilities rather than comparing them to humans (which is apple vs orange as humans are biological robots).

by nmca 3y ago

lukevp 3y ago

The difference being each human has to spend thousands of hours learning that level of control over their bodies, and work hard to maintain that level of physical fitness. And if they fall off the roof, millions of dollars of potential earnings and GDP die with them. Whereas these robots are only $70k, and once one of them can do this, they all can do it. Just like with Chess and Go. It’s not impressive at first, then a couple years later, it’s better than humans could ever be, and it can be cheaply replicated ad infinitum.

msikora 3y ago
^^^This
r3trohack3r 3y ago
$70K? The one pictured appears to be $14k https://m.unitree.com/en/a1/ https://m.unitree.com/en/a1/
quickthrower2 3y ago
The most impressive thing about the video is not the skill but the control of their fear.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  I think without fear, challenges to over come, ways to improve, there would be little point to living. Experience would be so bland? The feeling over fear when you want to ask someone out, then you do it and it works out, that is the spice of experience. Like wise when it doesn’t work out, it can suck but it’s also part of the spice.
- developer93 3y ago
  Not that have experience, but I feel like that's just practice. Your subconscious needs to learn that it's not necessarily going to die when it does that, and your subconscious learns from experience, so if you did it 10 times and nothing went wrong, you'll be less scared.
  - schwartzworld 3y ago
    "just" practice
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    I experienced this with skiing, where [1] you need to look down the hill and lean forward amongst other things for best results, things your fear reflexes want to avoid at all costs at first. But with the parkour on top of city buildings that is more extreme than what they portray on rooftop chases in a Bourne Identity movie... hmm... I think that is another level. There is a good chance you will die if you do that alot over 10 years. It probably requires some letting go of ego to the point where you are happy to die early. Like the free and solo climbers. [1] Forgive me if you are a great skiier this is my dumb interpretation!
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      Skiing is a unique sport in this regard, different to snowboarding in the way one needs to stand. With Skiing, you have to make yourself quite vulnerable. It’s instinctual for us to want to close ourselves up to protect our organs when scared. But you can’t ski well or difficult terrain without opening your body up, relax your arms and expose your vulnerability. This is especially scary at first when tree skiing. When you do relax it’s amazing. I think this is why some like snowboarding more. You’re facing sideways and you feel less exposed. You can get away with being closed up a little more and while it’s bad form, you never really have to snap out of it the way way you do on Skis.
machiaweliczny 3y ago
I think in humans it will be possible Matrix style as well
- inawarminister 3y ago
  only if we can crack transferrable skill-memories. I think the current thinking is that each human have different neuron nets patterns though mostly in the same general regions
GraceCat123 3y ago
Yes, that's very true. Success for one robot means success for a whole bunch of robots. However, success for one Olympic athlete does not mean everyone can achieve the same level. That's the main difference.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  I think the main difference is these robots aren’t individuals like us. They don’t and won’t have unique experience. They are essentially one “organism”. They are effectively the same height, same weight, same battery life, same way of processing information, same capabilities. There is zero uniqueness. Like a single machine with a thousand eyes and arms. If they develop uniqueness it would get wild, like the movie rogue one… If a robot is damaged it would be interesting though. Would it adapt ? If it adapts would it be part of the same fleet? Could it receive the same “updates”, or would it be an individual? It would the able to do certain things others bots of the same model could do…
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    * not be able

chadash 3y ago

I wouldn't say I'm particularly afraid of heights, yet my heart pounded while watching this.

raincole 3y ago

I got the opposite conclusion from watching this video. I feel the way the robots do it is similar to humans. Considering that's all emergency behaviours (not trained with animals' or humans' motion data) I believe that robots will exceed humans by far in few years.

csomar 3y ago

I think extreme refers to current robot's abilities rather than comparing them to humans (which is apple vs orange as humans are biological robots).