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The very, very straightforward answer is that Facebook is accountable to the US govt in ways that TikTok is not. It's entirely reasonable for the US to legislat

The very, very straightforward answer is that Facebook is accountable to the US govt in ways that TikTok is not. It's entirely reasonable for the US to legislate accordingly.

Spivak 3y ago
> Facebook is accountable to the US govt in ways that TikTok Why wouldn't it be? TikTok is now a US company with the data of US citizens stored in Austin TX. https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-myths-vs-facts https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-myths-vs-facts This is actually insane, the level of paranoia surrounding ByteDance has forced TikTok to jump through a billion hoops that no other foreign company has to and weirder still they did. Like my HIPAA is less protected than this. > Myth: Under its 2017 National Intelligence law, the Chinese government can compel ByteDance to share American TikTok user data. > Fact: TikTok Inc., which offers the TikTok app in the United States, is incorporated in California and Delaware, and is subject to U.S. laws and regulations governing privacy and data security. Under Project Texas, all protected U.S. data will be stored exclusively in the U.S. and under the control of the U.S.-led security team. This eliminates the concern that some have shared that TikTok US user data could be subject to Chinese law.
- intrasight 3y ago
  > TikTok is now a US company Not sure if I would agree. A friend works there and he's the only English speaking and Caucasian.
  - osti 3y ago
    By this logic, Amazon would be an Indian company, Google and Meta also have many teams composed of mainly Chinese so they would be Chinese companies as well.
- Mountain_Skies 3y ago
  @intrasight, my first job out of college in 2000 was for a small dot com owned entirely by a Jewish family in Texas. I was the only non Mandarin speaking software developer in the company. It's not all that uncommon in the tech industry regardless of ownership.
  - intrasight 3y ago
    I think it is unusual - even for a small company. TitTok is not a small company.
usernomdeguerre 3y ago
More than that, a US company has an innate floor on 'how bad' they're willing to disrupt the US to get what they want, because they live and operate there. A foreign national company has no such floor if they are not our allies.
- jkubicek 3y ago
  This may be true, but Facebook could disrupt the US significantly more before it starts to affect their business.
- janalsncm 3y ago
  I don’t think this argument holds any water. After Cambridge Analytica, basically the worst thing any social media has done to the US, I didn’t hear anyone calling for Facebook to be banned.
ramblenode 3y ago
That irony is that if TikTok were breaking US law then there actually would be a legal avenue for the government to enforce changes or ban it. And they absolutely would if they had a case. The unspoken truth is that TikTok is doing the same shady things as Facebook, but the government doesn't want to ban or regulate Facebook, so a special law has to be crafted to target TikTok.

The very, very straightforward answer is that Facebook is accountable to the US govt in ways that TikTok is not. It's entirely reasonable for the US to legislate accordingly.

Spivak 3y ago

> Facebook is accountable to the US govt in ways that TikTok Why wouldn't it be? TikTok is now a US company with the data of US citizens stored in Austin TX. https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-myths-vs-facts https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-myths-vs-facts This is actually insane, the level of paranoia surrounding ByteDance has forced TikTok to jump through a billion hoops that no other foreign company has to and weirder still they did. Like my HIPAA is less protected than this. > Myth: Under its 2017 National Intelligence law, the Chinese government can compel ByteDance to share American TikTok user data. > Fact: TikTok Inc., which offers the TikTok app in the United States, is incorporated in California and Delaware, and is subject to U.S. laws and regulations governing privacy and data security. Under Project Texas, all protected U.S. data will be stored exclusively in the U.S. and under the control of the U.S.-led security team. This eliminates the concern that some have shared that TikTok US user data could be subject to Chinese law.

intrasight 3y ago
> TikTok is now a US company Not sure if I would agree. A friend works there and he's the only English speaking and Caucasian.
- osti 3y ago
  By this logic, Amazon would be an Indian company, Google and Meta also have many teams composed of mainly Chinese so they would be Chinese companies as well.
Mountain_Skies 3y ago
@intrasight, my first job out of college in 2000 was for a small dot com owned entirely by a Jewish family in Texas. I was the only non Mandarin speaking software developer in the company. It's not all that uncommon in the tech industry regardless of ownership.
- intrasight 3y ago
  I think it is unusual - even for a small company. TitTok is not a small company.

usernomdeguerre 3y ago

More than that, a US company has an innate floor on 'how bad' they're willing to disrupt the US to get what they want, because they live and operate there. A foreign national company has no such floor if they are not our allies.

jkubicek 3y ago
This may be true, but Facebook could disrupt the US significantly more before it starts to affect their business.
janalsncm 3y ago
I don’t think this argument holds any water. After Cambridge Analytica, basically the worst thing any social media has done to the US, I didn’t hear anyone calling for Facebook to be banned.

ramblenode 3y ago

That irony is that if TikTok were breaking US law then there actually would be a legal avenue for the government to enforce changes or ban it. And they absolutely would if they had a case. The unspoken truth is that TikTok is doing the same shady things as Facebook, but the government doesn't want to ban or regulate Facebook, so a special law has to be crafted to target TikTok.