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"Property" only exists so far as there is law enforcing it and the infrastructure to support it. Taxation is not someone stealing your money, it is the buy-in t

• lawlessone 3y ago
  To add to this, how to we value property? in the state issued currency..
• johngladtj 3y ago
  Yeah, no that's not true. Property exists even in stateless societies
  • ramraj07 3y ago
    And you’d be spending resources on securing it and keeping it in your hands. Taxes are to buy in to a system that lets you sit at peace and not be constantly vigilant.
    • johngladtj 3y ago
      You're spending those resources regardless, at least you get to be the deciding how much to spend, and where, rather than having that decision taken from you
• carlosjobim 3y ago
  Taxation of labour is not somebody stealing your property, it is somebody stealing your work – which is a thousand times worse, since it is a form of forced servitude. There is no "system" and has never been any system, there's only people exploiting other people. An income tax is just a fancy abstraction over ancient and base serfdom. Most labourers have no property to speak of, and never had. If it's a "buy-in" to a system people should have a way to "buy out" as well, which of course doesn't happen, because there never was any "buy-in", it was "pay us your wages or we'll hunt you down". Slaves could buy their own freedom in Rome and other places, so why can't "free" people under taxation? Property rights should rank far lower than human rights. So if you want to collect taxes, go after property instead of after people. But it is the property owning class who runs the two-sided coin of capitalism/socialism, so good luck on that.