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Tell HN: DNS record "hn.algolia.com" was gone
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- jhh 3y agoEverybody has to save money
- meibo 3y agoAssociating with this site and YC is an actual image problem nowadays, so maybe they changed their mind.
- zoover2020 3y agoCurious, so giving in to the bait: why is this exactly?
- pcbro141 3y agoGoing to assume some YC affiliated person has been declared 'problematic'/'cancelled' on Twitter, and parent commenter thinks it's a bigger deal than it is in reality.
- sp332 3y agoGary Tan has been getting into politics lately. https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/27/garry-tan-y-combinator-declares-war-san-francisco-politics-progressives-elon-musk/ https://sfstandard.com/2023/09/27/garry-tan-y-combinator-dec...
- waihtis 3y agoIndeed, according to some leftists Garry Tan is now a white supremacist (???)
- jksflkjl3jk3 3y agoWhat group holds a negative opinion of Hacker News? Whenever I hear others mention this site, the sentiment is generally positive with some lamenting a moderate decline in discussion quality because of more mainstream participation, but still putting it above other discussion forums.
- helpfulContrib 3y ago[dead]
- yorwba 3y agoAsahi Linux https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503331622393719 https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503331622393719
- infecto 3y agoI was curious about this one. Seems like Asahi linux has some beef with HN. They initially included a banner on the top of the page. Then that changed to a redirect to google. Looks like some other site did something similar but redirected to something less innocent. In response dang had those on a list that added norefferer, which that mutated into adding it to all links. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36230649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36230649 which includes a reply from dang.
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- teddyh 3y agoSome people have strong opinions about HN. There was a blog post which reached the front page on HN <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34446704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34446704>, and the blog post author immediately added a large box on top of the blog post: <https://web.archive.org/web/20230120013024/https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/868933-how-to-destroy-a-cer https://web.archive.org/web/20230120013024/https://cohost.or...> They have now deleted the blog post entirely, citing being on HN as the reason: <https://web.archive.org/web/20230403204702/https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/868933-how-to-destroy-a-cer https://web.archive.org/web/20230403204702/https://cohost.or...>
- JoshGlazebrook 3y agoEither someone forgot about the special algolia account for HN, or cost cutting, which idk why they would need to cut costs this much as they charge a lot of $$$$$ for their product.
- generic92034 3y agoThere is no cost too small or inconvenience for others too great that a controller cannot get a bonus by cutting the cost. ;)
- generic92034 3y agoAnd while that happens often enough, it is not what happened here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822259 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822259
- dan-robertson 3y agoI assume it was an error. I would also assume algolia provides search “for free” because it’s great marketing for them — the search works very well imo, and I only knew about it because of HN.
- diggan 3y agoAlso great for YC, Algolia is W14 batch
- YetAnotherNick 3y agoIt is very likely HN doesn't pay them and algolia did this for marketing.
- coderintherye 3y agoGood catch. I use hn.algolia.com regularly, hope it is not permanent. Algolia is also a fairly great product for those who don't want to muck around building their own search. I hope this isn't them cutting off HN, as that would be a bad sign.
- miohtama 3y agoAlgolia is also very pricey, especially for startups. TypeSense offers almost matching capabilities and you can self-host its open source product in a pinch if you don’t want to spend time to build your own search.
- Lorin 3y agoAlgolia cut SO many reasonably priced features and put them into much more costly price buckets - we're actively looking to move away from them if anyone has suggestions.
- drcongo 3y agoI've been liking Meilisearch for a self hosted option - https://www.meilisearch.com https://www.meilisearch.com
- slau 3y agoAlgolia quoted one of my clients $250k/year. I spun up an ElasticSearch cluster and wrote a lambda that synchronises their DynamoDB into ES. Their customers barely noticed a difference in search quality, and my client got a more scalable solution for 1/5th the cost.
- miohtama 3y agoIf you like your penny take a look at Typesense https://typesense.org/ https://typesense.org/ - nothing to complain here. Especially nothing complain about pricing.
- codazoda 3y agoThe search box at the bottom of HN still links to this subdomain which means that HN searches are currently broken. So, hopefully this is just a temporary glitch or oversight.
- SkyMarshal 3y agoOr just use Google or DDG or whatever your favorite search engine is, and restrict it to HN with: site:news.ycombinator.com
- diggan 3y agoMissing the feature to filter by amount of comments or score and sorting by date. But works well enough in a "emergency" I suppose :)
- SkyMarshal 3y agoI was just about to reply that you can sort by date but it’s usually hidden in a menu somewhere, but just checked and it’s actually gone on both. WTF, I could have sworn this used to be available somewhere, just usually buried.
- Waterluvian 3y agoWait… how long has that search been there?! Edit: Wow. One of those occurrences where something has always been there and I just never really noticed.
- mindcrime 3y agoI don't know exactly, but it's been a pretty long time. Probably at least 10 years?
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- chuckmeyer 3y agohttps://www.algolia.com/blog/customers/hacker-news-search-algolia/ https://www.algolia.com/blog/customers/hacker-news-search-al...
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y agoOh no, I used that place on the regular. I hope it comes back, it's the only way I even heard of Algolia. EDIT: Nevermind! Just a DNS glitch.
- jdorfman 3y agoDitto. I use it daily.
- squokko 3y agohn.algolia.com was a ZIRP phenomenon
- zeroonetwothree 3y agoWhat do you think the P stands for?
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- neilknowsbest 3y agoPolicy?
- lovecg 3y agoI always assumed it stood for “policy”
- sshine 3y agoFor those who didn’t know (myself included): ZIRP = Zero Interest-Rate Policy https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031815/what-zero-interestrate-policy-zirp.asp https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031815/what-...
- chalsprhebaodu 3y agoInteresting, I just used the search about 4 hours ago to find a comment.
- eureka-belief 3y agoYou’d think they’d tell someone if they were intentionally shutting it down otherwise it would hurt the brand name.
- theolivenbaum 3y agoIf anyone needs an alternative, we host a HN search at https://hn.curiosity.ai https://hn.curiosity.ai
- svat 3y agoIt seems to search only stories, not comments?
- SkyMarshal 3y agoReally nice interface, good work with this.
- calcsam 3y agoNicolas, Bernadette, and Algolia -- assuming this was unintentional. This was an exceptionally useful for research for the entire dev/founder community and me personally. Would be very sad to see this sunsetted.
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- maxloh 3y agoFYI, Algolia close sourced their documentation scraper about 1.5 years ago. https://docsearch.algolia.com/docs/migrating-from-legacy/ https://docsearch.algolia.com/docs/migrating-from-legacy/
- chuckmeyer 3y agoCorrect. We run it as a managed service now -- it's free for technical blogs and documentation sites.
- dr_kiszonka 3y agoNot sure if related, but today, HN comments don't load in Harmonic app on my Android phone. Stories work fine.
- danjc 3y agoI'm guessing the reason no one has linked the discussion from the other day when this broke is because no one can search to find the post!
- halfmatthalfcat 3y agoTime to move to Meilisearch
- chuckmeyer 3y agoAlgolian here -- We were rolling out a new version of the HN search but accidentally swapped over the DNS before we were ready. I've got a group of folks over here working to restore the search. Sorry for the downtime, but it's nice to know the search is useful to so many!
- joshmanders 3y agoThanks for being on top of this. I just came to the site to search for something and noticed no DNS found, then saw this post on the front page!
- caprock 3y agoOut of curiosity, what functionality is forthcoming with the new version?
- chuckmeyer 3y agoIt's mostly a tech-stack update, but it resolves some longstanding edge cases in the search UI as well. I'll try to get a changelog when we have it up and running.
- rolph 3y agothanks for the answer, there are some here that seem to have problems with questions, about why, the update. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822329 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822329 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37822897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37823190 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37823190
- swores 3y agoI would guess it's not that people have "problems with questions", but are downvoting you for one or both of a) using multiple comments to ask the same question, and b) coming across as using a badgering tone, sounding entitled and complaining when you're talking to people who provide a free service to you, and acting like they owe you a comment reply rather than waiting for the change log they've said will be released when they're ready.
- poulpi 3y agoAlgolia is YC backed, and HN is run by YC. Algolia ex-CEO is now a partner at YC. So the connection between the two is pretty strong, this will be resolved before the end of the day.
- aiunboxed 3y agoYes right, and who doesn't like free publicity amongst their TG
- 28mm 3y agohn.algolia.com used to return a pair of cloudflare IPs: 104.16.46.55 and 104.16.45.55. Requesting hn.algolia.com from these IPs now results in an "Origin DNS error" from Cloudflare. I interpret this to mean that there is another record missing, as well: whatever the origin was set to.
- compumike 3y agoMy best guess is that someone migrated DNS providers (or some engineer playing with infrastructure as code…) and it’s just an unintentional missing DNS record, oops. The Hacker News API is still up: https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/topstories.json?print=pretty https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/topstories.json?print=... To @dang or whoever is reading at Algolia: you can set up continuous monitoring for problems at the DNS/TCP/TLS/HTTP layers from just your URL at https://heiioncall.com/ https://heiioncall.com/ and we’d definitely alert you if the DNS record disappears or it’s otherwise unreachable for more than X minutes. (Email me if you need help getting it set up.)
- bauruine 3y agoAny chance you are going to implement non http(s) Outbound probes? Not everything is http so a generic TCP connection check would be great. edit: Is it possible to add services in an automated fashion with an API?
- compumike 3y agoHmm, both are "possible but not implemented yet". The engineering approach that some of our users do is running their own custom monitoring script (checking TCP connections, checking against a dynamic list) on their own infrastructure, and then just use Heii On-Call to monitor (via Inbound Liveness heartbeats / checkins) and alert on (via Manual trigger type) that custom monitoring script. Feel free to email us at support-at-domain so we can try to understand the use case better.
- aftbit 3y agoIf you already run infra, and you aren't scared to roll your own here, check out mon. It's pretty good, albeit not a full SaaS solution.
- chuckmeyer 3y agoDNS is reverted and should be back up based on your local TTLs/caching. Sorry about that, everyone!
- aiunboxed 3y agoIt is back up