> are these computer programmers demonstrating hubris? Yes, but not in a way that's unique to programmers. People often underestimate the effort a job entails

> are these computer programmers demonstrating hubris? Yes, but not in a way that's unique to programmers. People often underestimate the effort a job entails, be it teaching, sales, programming, graphic design, machining, car repair vet medicine, etc. Most of my career history, when I've heard someone say "ugh, department X just sits around all day and occasionally does Y", they're assuming that the sliver of their insight into department X is the totality of what is actually done.