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What's wrong with using generative AI?

benterix 3y ago
After a brief period of fascination, it's become a synonym of low quality and low effort. See e.g. the relevant KitKat campaign: https://www.creativebloq.com/news/kit-kat-ai-ad https://www.creativebloq.com/news/kit-kat-ai-ad
- MrPatan 3y ago
  What's the problem with low quality and low effort? Let the market decide if they like it or not.
  - ghusto 3y ago
    The problem is that there's the presumption that "the market"'s choice is what we want. "The market" has decided on what gets pushed to the top of your social media feed, and that is by all accounts turned out to be terrible for humanity. Idiocracy is what happens when we tailor to the lowest common denominator. "The market" will decide on the cheapest and easiest, not what's in your best interest.
    - MrPatan 3y ago
      The actual market's choice is hard to fake. It's people voting with their dollars. Don't like it, don't watch it. Don't care, watch it. Disney are not the market, and neither are they "the market". They are indeed betting on lots of people not caring about AI one way or another, so that they can save some money. Good for them.
      - ghusto 3y ago
        > The actual market's choice is hard to fake. It's people voting with their dollars I'm not saying it's being faked, I'm saying it's wrong to allow it when it goes against the best interest of the many, or worse, us as humanity as a whole. People vote with their dollars by buying cheap crap to eat every day, and manufacturers save a ton of money pumping that crap out instead of nutritious food. That doesn't mean it's good or should be encouraged, or even tolerated. The market is not god.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  I’m sure many folks will take that smug sense of superiority all the way down the unemployment line while high effort, hardworking artists that leverage AI to make high quality works.
  - benterix 3y ago
    Yes and no. Let's take the closest analogy we have now, i.e. analog vs digital. The digital art technologies (photography, painting, music etc.) are much more common today than their analog ancestors. Yet, there is a part of the market that really appreciates the analog experience - they will buy vinyls and so on. My friends publishing house is commissioning only analog images for the cover. Another friend is a photographer and he is selling mostly analog photographs. So yes, you are right, but it's not really the sense of superiority, it's different things for different customers.
- EnergyAmy 3y ago
  This comment seems to imply that AI generation is "over" or something. We're just seeing the beginning of a huge shift in how art is created, though. These models are only getting better.
barelyauser 3y ago
People being put out of a job don't like. Out of the blue, right?
- yasp 3y ago
  Technology putting people out of work is a story as old as time.
  - barelyauser 3y ago
    Let's hope it doesn't put everyone out at the same time.
  - pookha 3y ago
    Theodosian Walls.
artninja1988 3y ago
Nothing, despite what the moral outrage crowd will tell you

After a brief period of fascination, it's become a synonym of low quality and low effort. See e.g. the relevant KitKat campaign: https://www.creativebloq.com/news/kit-kat-ai-ad https://www.creativebloq.com/news/kit-kat-ai-ad

MrPatan 3y ago
What's the problem with low quality and low effort? Let the market decide if they like it or not.
- ghusto 3y ago
  The problem is that there's the presumption that "the market"'s choice is what we want. "The market" has decided on what gets pushed to the top of your social media feed, and that is by all accounts turned out to be terrible for humanity. Idiocracy is what happens when we tailor to the lowest common denominator. "The market" will decide on the cheapest and easiest, not what's in your best interest.
  - MrPatan 3y ago
    The actual market's choice is hard to fake. It's people voting with their dollars. Don't like it, don't watch it. Don't care, watch it. Disney are not the market, and neither are they "the market". They are indeed betting on lots of people not caring about AI one way or another, so that they can save some money. Good for them.
    - ghusto 3y ago
      > The actual market's choice is hard to fake. It's people voting with their dollars I'm not saying it's being faked, I'm saying it's wrong to allow it when it goes against the best interest of the many, or worse, us as humanity as a whole. People vote with their dollars by buying cheap crap to eat every day, and manufacturers save a ton of money pumping that crap out instead of nutritious food. That doesn't mean it's good or should be encouraged, or even tolerated. The market is not god.
jncfhnb 3y ago
I’m sure many folks will take that smug sense of superiority all the way down the unemployment line while high effort, hardworking artists that leverage AI to make high quality works.
- benterix 3y ago
  Yes and no. Let's take the closest analogy we have now, i.e. analog vs digital. The digital art technologies (photography, painting, music etc.) are much more common today than their analog ancestors. Yet, there is a part of the market that really appreciates the analog experience - they will buy vinyls and so on. My friends publishing house is commissioning only analog images for the cover. Another friend is a photographer and he is selling mostly analog photographs. So yes, you are right, but it's not really the sense of superiority, it's different things for different customers.
EnergyAmy 3y ago
This comment seems to imply that AI generation is "over" or something. We're just seeing the beginning of a huge shift in how art is created, though. These models are only getting better.

barelyauser 3y ago

People being put out of a job don't like. Out of the blue, right?

yasp 3y ago
Technology putting people out of work is a story as old as time.
- barelyauser 3y ago
  Let's hope it doesn't put everyone out at the same time.
- pookha 3y ago
  Theodosian Walls.

artninja1988 3y ago

Nothing, despite what the moral outrage crowd will tell you