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> Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. I thi

by _kbh_ 3y ago

> Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. I think it's the other way around, Ukraine is decimating Russias fighting strength, theres no other real way to explain Russias reactivation of T62 tanks and its frankentechnicals that it has been making from any spare gun it can find and a MTLB.

CrzyLngPwd 3y ago
Nonsense. Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done.
- PawgerZ 3y ago
  Can you expand on your position that this war is sapping strength from NATO? I won't comment on the EU because I am much less knowledgeable on their involvement. From what I can see of NATO actions, it doesn't seem like we are over-extending at all. We have given money and old weapons (two things of which we're in no short supply), but I don't see how that equates to sapping our strength. No NATO troops have been killed, no modern NATO weapons have been lost, and the amount of money we've spent is negligable comapred to the money going into the war machine every year already. In contrast, I see Russian men being killed, russian weapons being lost, and russian money being poured into this war; resulting in negligable gains in their positions each time.
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > Nonsense. Literally everything I said is true. > Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. It's being propped up because it's hard to have a functioning economy during a war thats literally inside your borders. > As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done. How have EU/NATO been played may I asked?.

by _kbh_ 3y ago

CrzyLngPwd 3y ago

Nonsense. Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done.

PawgerZ 3y ago
Can you expand on your position that this war is sapping strength from NATO? I won't comment on the EU because I am much less knowledgeable on their involvement. From what I can see of NATO actions, it doesn't seem like we are over-extending at all. We have given money and old weapons (two things of which we're in no short supply), but I don't see how that equates to sapping our strength. No NATO troops have been killed, no modern NATO weapons have been lost, and the amount of money we've spent is negligable comapred to the money going into the war machine every year already. In contrast, I see Russian men being killed, russian weapons being lost, and russian money being poured into this war; resulting in negligable gains in their positions each time.
_kbh_ 3y ago
> Nonsense. Literally everything I said is true. > Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. It's being propped up because it's hard to have a functioning economy during a war thats literally inside your borders. > As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done. How have EU/NATO been played may I asked?.