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Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. One day

Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. One day, a dozen angry palestinians who have been tirelessly beaten by the Israelis, are going to do something truly terrible to Israel, and there isn't anything they can do about it aside form make peace now. Also, stop watching the news. It's poison.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. I think it's the other way around, Ukraine is decimating Russias fighting strength, theres no other real way to explain Russias reactivation of T62 tanks and its frankentechnicals that it has been making from any spare gun it can find and a MTLB.
- CrzyLngPwd 3y ago
  Nonsense. Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done.
  - PawgerZ 3y ago
    Can you expand on your position that this war is sapping strength from NATO? I won't comment on the EU because I am much less knowledgeable on their involvement. From what I can see of NATO actions, it doesn't seem like we are over-extending at all. We have given money and old weapons (two things of which we're in no short supply), but I don't see how that equates to sapping our strength. No NATO troops have been killed, no modern NATO weapons have been lost, and the amount of money we've spent is negligable comapred to the money going into the war machine every year already. In contrast, I see Russian men being killed, russian weapons being lost, and russian money being poured into this war; resulting in negligable gains in their positions each time.
  - _kbh_ 3y ago
    > Nonsense. Literally everything I said is true. > Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. It's being propped up because it's hard to have a functioning economy during a war thats literally inside your borders. > As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done. How have EU/NATO been played may I asked?.
keepamovin 3y ago
Sounds like you have some bitter personal experience with all this, I'm sorry to hear. It's hard to argue that news is toxic overall, but I think depending on your perspective, and where you get your news from, it can certainly be an unpleasant experience. I find news tiring in all but small doses, but find that conversations like this can often be tonic. Yet in them it seem we have to talk about things that are in the news. In another way, I'd probably rather not consume any news at all except for a strong desire to know what is happening on Earth. And what people think is happening on Earth. I suppose I could satisfy my desires in some other ways, yet it seems so easy to get that "reward signal hit" from absorbing information. It's interesting to think if we're all like "neurons", sort of hard wired to seek gossip and "signal". As if "information" is like sugar in a way. I feel it is unhealthy to consume news too much tho. Like scrolling through FB, or YT shorts. Somehow it seems "nutritionally empty" like "junk food". I suppose such a feeling must be commonplace in our world where we are certainly saturated with information -- at least compared to the day when the source of all gossip for the town was the general store. Haha :)

_kbh_ 3y ago

> Russia is quietly sapping the strength of Ukraine, NATO and the EU, and Israel is reaping the harvest from sowing discontent in the region for decades. I think it's the other way around, Ukraine is decimating Russias fighting strength, theres no other real way to explain Russias reactivation of T62 tanks and its frankentechnicals that it has been making from any spare gun it can find and a MTLB.

CrzyLngPwd 3y ago
Nonsense. Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done.
- PawgerZ 3y ago
  Can you expand on your position that this war is sapping strength from NATO? I won't comment on the EU because I am much less knowledgeable on their involvement. From what I can see of NATO actions, it doesn't seem like we are over-extending at all. We have given money and old weapons (two things of which we're in no short supply), but I don't see how that equates to sapping our strength. No NATO troops have been killed, no modern NATO weapons have been lost, and the amount of money we've spent is negligable comapred to the money going into the war machine every year already. In contrast, I see Russian men being killed, russian weapons being lost, and russian money being poured into this war; resulting in negligable gains in their positions each time.
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > Nonsense. Literally everything I said is true. > Ukraine ceased to exist as an independent entity quite some time ago. It 's hanging on only because NATO and EU are propping it up. It's being propped up because it's hard to have a functioning economy during a war thats literally inside your borders. > As soon as the USA finds a new thing, and the EU/NATO realise they have been played, then Ukraine will be done. How have EU/NATO been played may I asked?.

keepamovin 3y ago

Sounds like you have some bitter personal experience with all this, I'm sorry to hear. It's hard to argue that news is toxic overall, but I think depending on your perspective, and where you get your news from, it can certainly be an unpleasant experience. I find news tiring in all but small doses, but find that conversations like this can often be tonic. Yet in them it seem we have to talk about things that are in the news. In another way, I'd probably rather not consume any news at all except for a strong desire to know what is happening on Earth. And what people think is happening on Earth. I suppose I could satisfy my desires in some other ways, yet it seems so easy to get that "reward signal hit" from absorbing information. It's interesting to think if we're all like "neurons", sort of hard wired to seek gossip and "signal". As if "information" is like sugar in a way. I feel it is unhealthy to consume news too much tho. Like scrolling through FB, or YT shorts. Somehow it seems "nutritionally empty" like "junk food". I suppose such a feeling must be commonplace in our world where we are certainly saturated with information -- at least compared to the day when the source of all gossip for the town was the general store. Haha :)