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Toronto is such that you can go from the financial district to farmland in less than 40 minutes. It's a bit annoying living outside the core when you are young

Toronto is such that you can go from the financial district to farmland in less than 40 minutes. It's a bit annoying living outside the core when you are young since cabs are expensive and regional pubic transit unavailable late but outside of that everything else is pretty close to just as accessible you just have to plan more in advance where when i lived downtown I could just be bored one afternoon and go find a cool event

robswc 3y ago
>I could just be bored one afternoon and go find a cool event Yea, I'd say this is probably the worst part about living outside of a city. Just not as many events to go to easily. At the end of the day though, the 30-40 minute drive isn't too bad when its something you really want to go to and plan for.
- sanswork 3y ago
  Yeah and having a decent backyard can fill a lot of those days too. Also lots to do outside the city of you like nature.
the_third_wave 3y ago
> It's a bit annoying living outside the core when you are young since cabs are expensive and regional pubic transit unavailable late Use a bike? If you don't want to cycle all the way to the city park it at the last all-night public transport stop and take the bus/tram/train/whathaveyounot to the city from there? Maybe it is my Dutch heritage or maybe just common sense but anything up to ~15km is within an easy bike ride range, 20km if needed. OK, you can't get drunk like a skunk but why would you do that anyway? A few beers are fine, you'll cycle them off anyway. In my eyes cities look at their best when you see them disappearing on the horizon after a pleasant night out. I've never been to Toronto so maybe this prospect is totally unthinkable there but I've spent a few weeks around Vancouver - it was meant to be only a few days since I was scheduled to fly out on the 11th of September, 2001 - where cycling was just as feasible as in most European cities.
- sanswork 3y ago
  The city would be a 40-100km ride. As mentioned regional transport is spotty at night and even then you are probably looking at a 15-30km trip from the nearest stop on 80km roads with small shoulders. It's also completely out of the question for the 6-7 months a year snow is on the ground.
  - the_third_wave 3y ago
    15 km is doable, 30 is (literally) taking it a bit far so that would be reserved for once or twice a year events. Snow on the ground is not that much of a problem as long as it isn't a metre deep where you're supposed to cycle. I live in Sweden where snow isn't uncommon either and cycle the year trough, if need be on a bike with studded tyres but mostly on a fairly normal 24-speed 29" wheel steel-framed bike. Cycle paths are mostly absent here as well, at least in the countryside where I live. The 80km roads are 70km gravel roads but for the rest the situation is quite comparable I think.
    - sanswork 3y ago
      Honestly riding a bike in the winter with little shoulder space on 70km roads sounds like a death wish to me. I really don't think it'd be appropriate around Toronto countryside as a solution and I find it hard to believe it's common where you are too but glad you found something you enjoy.
      - the_third_wave 3y ago
        No, it is not common, as said this might be might be my Dutch heritage showing. My daughters - 12 and 18 - are also 'affected' in that they are used to cycling where their friends expect to be driven.

robswc 3y ago

>I could just be bored one afternoon and go find a cool event Yea, I'd say this is probably the worst part about living outside of a city. Just not as many events to go to easily. At the end of the day though, the 30-40 minute drive isn't too bad when its something you really want to go to and plan for.

sanswork 3y ago
Yeah and having a decent backyard can fill a lot of those days too. Also lots to do outside the city of you like nature.

the_third_wave 3y ago

> It's a bit annoying living outside the core when you are young since cabs are expensive and regional pubic transit unavailable late Use a bike? If you don't want to cycle all the way to the city park it at the last all-night public transport stop and take the bus/tram/train/whathaveyounot to the city from there? Maybe it is my Dutch heritage or maybe just common sense but anything up to ~15km is within an easy bike ride range, 20km if needed. OK, you can't get drunk like a skunk but why would you do that anyway? A few beers are fine, you'll cycle them off anyway. In my eyes cities look at their best when you see them disappearing on the horizon after a pleasant night out. I've never been to Toronto so maybe this prospect is totally unthinkable there but I've spent a few weeks around Vancouver - it was meant to be only a few days since I was scheduled to fly out on the 11th of September, 2001 - where cycling was just as feasible as in most European cities.

sanswork 3y ago
The city would be a 40-100km ride. As mentioned regional transport is spotty at night and even then you are probably looking at a 15-30km trip from the nearest stop on 80km roads with small shoulders. It's also completely out of the question for the 6-7 months a year snow is on the ground.
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  15 km is doable, 30 is (literally) taking it a bit far so that would be reserved for once or twice a year events. Snow on the ground is not that much of a problem as long as it isn't a metre deep where you're supposed to cycle. I live in Sweden where snow isn't uncommon either and cycle the year trough, if need be on a bike with studded tyres but mostly on a fairly normal 24-speed 29" wheel steel-framed bike. Cycle paths are mostly absent here as well, at least in the countryside where I live. The 80km roads are 70km gravel roads but for the rest the situation is quite comparable I think.
  - sanswork 3y ago
    Honestly riding a bike in the winter with little shoulder space on 70km roads sounds like a death wish to me. I really don't think it'd be appropriate around Toronto countryside as a solution and I find it hard to believe it's common where you are too but glad you found something you enjoy.
    - the_third_wave 3y ago
      No, it is not common, as said this might be might be my Dutch heritage showing. My daughters - 12 and 18 - are also 'affected' in that they are used to cycling where their friends expect to be driven.